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    Default Paladin past life ( passive )

    Has anyone tested this yet to see if it stacks additively or Multiplicatively?

    Figured enough people out there have reinc'd enough that there should be some pallies that did it and might know. I figure you'd have to reinc into a Wf to test properly though.

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    Default I'd like to know about pally past life too

    "You occasionally find yourself overcome with righteous fervor. Each time you acquire this feat you gain 5% more health when affecting by positive energy"
    What does this mean? Is it a divine healing amp? Does it give you more HP from positive shroud item?

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    Any incoming healing, including wands, potions, spells, and other affects, will give you 5% more HP. Shroud items are a static boost to your HP, not a positive energy effect.
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    Ty +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
    Any incoming healing, including wands, potions, spells, and other affects, will give you 5% more HP.
    Does it stack with Devotion effects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    Does it stack with Devotion effects?
    Devotion items don't affect healing amp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rest View Post
    Devotion items don't affect healing amp.
    That does not really answer my question.

    I cast a CMW on a past-life paladin for 20 hp. His past-life feat turns it into 21. Now, if I happen to wear Superior Devotion shield, my 20 hp heal turns into 30 hp heal -- on anybody. Does it become a 31 or 32 hp heal on the past-life paladin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    That does not really answer my question.

    I cast a CMW on a past-life paladin for 20 hp. His past-life feat turns it into 21. Now, if I happen to wear Superior Devotion shield, my 20 hp heal turns into 30 hp heal -- on anybody. Does it become a 31 or 32 hp heal on the past-life paladin?
    Yep. The 5% amplifies incoming healing so the more the incoming healing the more it's amplified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian14 View Post
    That does not really answer my question.

    I cast a CMW on a past-life paladin for 20 hp. His past-life feat turns it into 21. Now, if I happen to wear Superior Devotion shield, my 20 hp heal turns into 30 hp heal -- on anybody. Does it become a 31 or 32 hp heal on the past-life paladin?
    Don't mix the two up, since they are two separate things. Devotion affects the outgoing amount of healing being applied, while healing amp affects the incoming healing, no matter what the source. If you have 5% healing amp, and you get hit with a 20pt cure spell, it will increase it by 5% to 21. If you get hit with a 40pt cure spell, it will increase it to 42. The only thing that matters is the number you get hit by, not how that number was determined.

    A Devotion item will increase the power of the cure spells you cast, which will mean you get more HP overall. It doesn't "stack" with healing amp in any meaningful sense.(It is like saying that a wizard's fire amplification enhancement "stacks" with an ice giant's weakness to fire)
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    it does NOT add to your base, it multiplies like most everything else
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    I don't know how it works. I just know Aneist has it, and its nice.

    Healing amp is one of those things where the more you have, the more each little bit counts. Expect to be overhealed a lot if you focus anything on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asketes View Post
    it does NOT add to your base, it multiplies like most everything else
    Are you 100% certain? If that is the case, the past life feat is useless, and only **** near useless if you get it 3x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halock View Post
    Are you 100% certain? If that is the case, the past life feat is useless, and only **** near useless if you get it 3x
    Bare in mind the 15% extra healing amp you get from the 3x tr will multiply with any other healing amp you have.

    If you are a light monk or solar pheonix build or even just a monk with a decent amount of healing amp. This "could" make a nice addition. is it worth slogging through 3 past lives for .. eh thats up to you.

    Im doing 2 past lives as a paladin for 10 pct. But then im aiming to end up as a monk with as much healing amp as i can reasonably get.

    Light path + vamp weapons. you can get some fairly nifty per hit healing baring in mind how fast you hit.

    When I did my first paladin life (solar pheonix build) I was getting 5hp per hit on average. And thats without the vamp. Not 100% sure they stack but they should .. meaning you could get 10hp per hit.

    With the rate you hit your talking about getting about 50 hp back per attack round. That should be more than enough to keep you topped off, and thats without the finisher.

    As a solar pheonix, your devotion and healing amp help with the finisher meaning you can heal AoE for anywhere from 200-400 if im understanding it correctly with gear. Thats every 9 seconds or so, and using KI. So its sustainable.

    15% may not sound like loads but when healing amp is part of your build it can make a difference.

    Cleric/mnk also get some nice benefit from healing amp which makes them able to survive longer with just their aura.
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    Different values of healing amp. stack, right?
    If I TR a pally 3x to get +15% inc heals, will it stack with the item I have equipped that has +15% amp. healing, thus giving me yet another +15% above all my stacking healing amp. values?
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    Yes, paladin past life healing amp bonus will stack with every other source of healing amp.

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    it should stack with everything, since it's a feat. and it provides the +% to all incoming healing. everything from cure light, to heal, to lay hands. pots, spells, wands, scrolls, dragonmarks, cleric aura, and monk fists of light.

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    it will stack, its a feat bonus so will stack with anything,
    (Any feat bonus) will stack with (any AP bought bonus) will stack with (any item bonus of differing value)
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    since each past life is a separate feat, wouldn't it be 3 times 5% instead of 15%?
    IE, a multiplier of 1.05*1.05*1.05= rather than 1.15.
    on no other amp, difference is negligible (15.7% instead of 15%)
    with other sources of amp, it becomes noticeable, a "light" 10/20DT + 30% monk becomes a difference of 98.6% instead of 97.34%

    on a healing amp junkie, it becomes 361.6% instead of 358.56% (10/20dt, 30 monk, 30 human, 30eclaw, 10fleshmaker, 25jinka fire stance, note that 358% amp means the multiplier is 4.585, not 3.58)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halock View Post
    Are you 100% certain? If that is the case, the past life feat is useless, and only **** near useless if you get it 3x
    yes, 100%
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    Man. I need a blue post to verify this.
    No way I'm guuna TR a pally 3 times...even once...if this does not stack.

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