Improved PvP system needed badly!

[D3adtrap]

Hello

I'm asking for inproved PvP system in the game. Classes are balanced and everything, but acces for entire PvP is really bad. In tavrens you have FFA, BUT high lv players come there and single handed kill everyone with one blow.

Also you have to organize raids to really start PvP and it takes time and no one joins it. I suggest that when you talk to the guy who teleports you to arena would place you on balanced team. That would increase players in Pvp.

Also so kind of reward would be great. You should have Friendly and competive matches. In last ones would be games to join and it would show how much money you have to put in. If your team wins you get other teams money (x2 money) if you loose, well you loose. And it would have like from 20pp to 20000 pp or so.

Also you should get guild support in it. Like if you have two guilds agreed to fight (with balanced teams) for winning your guild gets bonus renown.



That was all. I really hope Turbine reads this and take this seriosly. PvP is one of most fun aspects in the game and when I organize PvP raids, most people eighter dont want to bechose they think it's like in tavrens or they are in arena for teh first time (even lv 11's) that shows us that many people probably dont even know about arena's nor how they work. For Turbine this could increase their sells dramaticaly if they win "Best PvP MMO" etc. witch could easily be possible, bechose of balance and great battle system.

Thanks


EDIT:

People are saying that making better PvP takes much time from much needed quests & etc. What I'd like to see (with out taking so much time from other development) is that they would make some sort of lobby/match making. It does not take for ever to change and it would greatly inproove PvP. It could be realised as minor patch. I'm NOT asking for changing ingame mechanics nor anything like that. I just want so that people could get to matches faster and with no problems. Also some sort of reward system (like mine suggested abow) could be nice.

[cdemeritt]

No... This game isn't about PvP. please stop trying to make it into one.

[AyumiAmakusa]

In before the flames.

[Aaxeyu]

Hello

Classes are balanced and everything.

rofl.

[Rineth]

No... This game isn't about PvP. please stop trying to make it into one.

Hear hear!

[timewalker]

more PVP = hell no

remove all pvp so ppl do not get confused with this being a pvp game = hell yes

[keegusmcdille]

In before the flames.

yup yup

[Jendrak]

Hello

I'm asking for inproved PvP system in the game. Classes are balanced and everything, but acces for entire PvP is really bad. In tavrens you have FFA, BUT high lv players come there and single handed kill everyone with one blow.

Well, thats kind athe point of FFA isnt it? Whoever shows up get to fight and strongest wins. Sounds like someone got spanked a little too hard once or twice and now wants everyone else to play fair

Also you have to organize raids to really start PvP and it takes time and no one joins it. I suggest that when you talk to the guy who teleports you to arena would place you on balanced team. That would increase players in Pvp.

If your organizing a 12-man PvP (its not a raid) event it's your responsability to make the teams balanced before yall go in.

Also so kind of reward would be great. You should have Friendly and competive matches. In last ones would be games to join and it would show how much money you have to put in. If your team wins you get other teams money (x2 money) if you loose, well you loose. And it would have like from 20pp to 20000 pp or so.

And whats stoppingyou from makeing a little side wager on a fight now?

Also you should get guild support in it. Like if you have two guilds agreed to fight (with balanced teams) for winning your guild gets bonus renown.

Oh great...... like nobody will exploit the **** outta this idea

Guild 1: Hey you guys lose to us till we hit 50 and then well do the same for yall.

Guild 2: Hell!! why stop at 50 lets go for 100.

Guild 1: Deal.

That was all. I really hope Turbine reads this and take this seriosly. PvP is one of most fun aspects in the game and when I organize PvP raids, most people eighter dont want to bechose they think it's like in tavrens or they are in arena for teh first time (even lv 11's) that shows us that many people probably dont even know about arena's nor how they work. For Turbine this could increase their sells dramaticaly if they win "Best PvP MMO" etc. witch could easily be possible, bechose of balance and great battle system.

Thanks

This game isn't PvP. Never has been, was never intended to be, and if the devs have any sense about them it never will. PvP as anythign other than a side project in an MMO usually leads to disaster. If you and your buddies wanna beat the hell outta each other then have a blast but DnD ins't about PvP.

[redraider]

Hello. Welcome. Please go home.

[D3adtrap]

Well, thats kind athe point of FFA isnt it? Whoever shows up get to fight and strongest wins. Sounds like someone got spanked a little too hard once or twice and now wants everyone else to play fair

Yeah it is, but as it is pretty much only aspect of PvP that most people know it is not good enough.


If your organizing a 12-man PvP (its not a raid) event it's your responsability to make the teams balanced before yall go in.

Game would organize teams like in all games (not MMO)



And whats stoppingyou from makeing a little side wager on a fight now?



Oh great...... like nobody will exploit the **** outta this idea

Guild 1: Hey you guys lose to us till we hit 50 and then well do the same for yall.

Guild 2: Hell!! why stop at 50 lets go for 100.

Guild 1: Deal.


There are flaws and this was posted only to get suggestions out.




This game isn't PvP. Never has been, was never intended to be, and if the devs have any sense about them it never will. PvP as anythign other than a side project in an MMO usually leads to disaster. If you and your buddies wanna beat the hell outta each other then have a blast but DnD ins't about PvP.

Maybe, but would it be that bad if they would add it. You could still play PvE no problem

[timewalker]

Maybe, but would it be that bad if they would add it. You could still play PvE no problem

i think the real issue would be not that you could still PvE, it is that it would be a waste of development time for a relitively small percentage of the populous. time which could be better spent on fixing bugs and making 10-18 lvl quests.

[Zippo]

Hello

I'm asking for inproved PvP system in the game. Classes are balanced and everything, but acces for entire PvP is really bad. In tavrens you have FFA, BUT high lv players come there and single handed kill everyone with one blow.

Also you have to organize raids to really start PvP and it takes time and no one joins it. I suggest that when you talk to the guy who teleports you to arena would place you on balanced team. That would increase players in Pvp.

Also so kind of reward would be great. You should have Friendly and competive matches. In last ones would be games to join and it would show how much money you have to put in. If your team wins you get other teams money (x2 money) if you loose, well you loose. And it would have like from 20pp to 20000 pp or so.

Also you should get guild support in it. Like if you have two guilds agreed to fight (with balanced teams) for winning your guild gets bonus renown.



That was all. I really hope Turbine reads this and take this seriosly. PvP is one of most fun aspects in the game and when I organize PvP raids, most people eighter dont want to bechose they think it's like in tavrens or they are in arena for teh first time (even lv 11's) that shows us that many people probably dont even know about arena's nor how they work. For Turbine this could increase their sells dramaticaly if they win "Best PvP MMO" etc. witch could easily be possible, bechose of balance and great battle system.

Thanks

Oh wait! You were serious?

Ummm NO! This game is just not for PvP, never was never should be.

[MyersVandalay]

Hello

I'm asking for inproved PvP system in the game. Classes are balanced and everything, but acces for entire PvP is really bad. In tavrens you have FFA, BUT high lv players come there and single handed kill everyone with one blow.

Thanks

There are PVP arenas similar to WoW's style if you talk to the NPC near the brawling areas, but no they aren't used, because 1. Very little of the DDO population has any interest in PVP, and 2. The classes are not balanced.
if you had an 11 man team with 1 of each class, and put them against a 8 man team made of 4 wizards and 4 clerics, assuming equal skills gear and levels, the 8 man team would mop the floor with team 1.

Classes are balanced in DDO, for PVE, not for PVP, and in the event that they took the time to fix PVP, that would result in either A. PVE getting messed up in balance, or B. Assuming they did take the time to develop PVP with a seperate ruleset from PVE to allow them to change PVP balance while leaving the PVE game untouched, that would involve slowing down the progress of PVE development, which is what people play this game for, there are plenty of good PVP MMO's, if that is what you want, go play one of them.

[D3adtrap]

i think the real issue would be not that you could still PvE, it is that it would be a waste of development time for a relitively small percentage of the populous. time which could be better spent on fixing bugs and making 10-18 lvl quests.

Point. BUT do your really know how many people would want improved PvP? Even 20% is big number and I dont know numbers, but I could bet that many people would like- after arena match inproved PvP

[keegusmcdille]

Maybe, but would it be that bad if they would add it. You could still play PvE no problem

yes, it would, please see WoW content production before then after the release of Arena's.

[Midarc]

Not going to touch the topic of whether we need pvp in this game or not, but one thing for sure, if any such ajustment to the current system makes it into the development plan, it'll be significantly lower priority than quite a number of other things the dev team need to focus on.
That'd put it years away from making it to release.

[timewalker]

LOL and the nightmare of class homoganization that followed areana

[D3adtrap]

There are PVP arenas similar to WoW's style if you talk to the NPC near the brawling areas, but no they aren't used, because 1. Very little of the DDO population has any interest in PVP, and 2. The classes are not balanced.
if you had an 11 man team with 1 of each class, and put them against a 8 man team made of 4 wizards and 4 clerics, assuming equal skills gear and levels, the 8 man team would mop the floor with team 1.

Classes are balanced in DDO, for PVE, not for PVP, and in the event that they took the time to fix PVP, that would result in either A. PVE getting messed up in balance, or B. Assuming they did take the time to develop PVP with a seperate ruleset from PVE to allow them to change PVP balance while leaving the PVE game untouched, that would involve slowing down the progress of PVE development, which is what people play this game for, there are plenty of good PVP MMO's, if that is what you want, go play one of them.

I agree that developing better PvP slows down PvE, but there are people wanting better PvP or PvPvE. and why shuold I change game? I like this game. Alot. And this is posted under "suggestions" to inprove gameplay experience.

[Xaearth]

Hello

I'm asking for inproved PvP system in the game. Classes are balanced and everything, but acces for entire PvP is really bad. In tavrens you have FFA, BUT high lv players come there and single handed kill everyone with one blow.

Lemme get this straight... Classes are balanced and everything, but PvP is bad because it isn't balanced.

Also you have to organize raids to really start PvP and it takes time and no one joins it. I suggest that when you talk to the guy who teleports you to arena would place you on balanced team. That would increase players in Pvp.

And... Classes are balanced and everything, but the arena dood should balance them too.

Also so kind of reward would be great. You should have Friendly and competive matches. In last ones would be games to join and it would show how much money you have to put in. If your team wins you get other teams money (x2 money) if you loose, well you loose. And it would have like from 20pp to 20000 pp or so.

Also you should get guild support in it. Like if you have two guilds agreed to fight (with balanced teams) for winning your guild gets bonus renown.

And finally... Classes are balanced and everything, and we all love PvP, but there isn't no point to it because we don't get nuthin for doing the killin stuff.

That was all. I really hope Turbine reads this and take this seriosly. PvP is one of most fun aspects in the game and when I organize PvP raids, most people eighter dont want to bechose they think it's like in tavrens or they are in arena for teh first time (even lv 11's) that shows us that many people probably dont even know about arena's nor how they work. For Turbine this could increase their sells dramaticaly if they win "Best PvP MMO" etc. witch could easily be possible, bechose of balance and great battle system.

Thanks

Ok, I thought I knew PvPnglish... but I think you got drunk or something for this part because even google translator can't help with this one.

[Gkar]

Also you have to organize raids to really start PvP and it takes time and no one joins it.

You said the key right there. No one joins. This game is not PvP focussed nor designed for PvP, nor should it be.