Radiant Whirling Kensai

[Muldamai]

I originally started just to make use of Radiant Servant, but I kept looking at Whirling Steel Strike, and then played around with how to make a fairly useful dual wield longsword character. We take Follower of the Sovereign Host, mix in Whirling Steel Strike from Monk, and add enough Fighter to get the Feats to make best use of Two Weapon Fighting.

#1 There are a lot of ways to go with Enhancements, so please post what would work better. I just did a base to get Radiant Servant and Kensei, and to get Human Versatility IV, just because I like it.

#2 It is a 32 point build, because I can, and Human, because we need the bonus feat. I also use a +2 Tome of Supreme Ability at level 7.

#3 Skills focused on Concentration, Jump, Balance, and Diplomacy (essentially left over cleric points) in that order. I didn't take Intimidate as I don't see this as an Intimi-Tank. If you think otherwise, please let me know.

Feats - breaking these out just for easier reading, the rest will be in the DDO Planner.

1 - (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
1 - (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
1 - (Human Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
2 - (Monk Bonus) Toughness
3 - (Selected) Extend Spell
6 - (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
9 - (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
9 - (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike
11 - (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
12 - (Selected) Maximize Spell
12 - (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
15 - (Selected) Quicken Spell
16 - (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
18 - (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons

And the rest......

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FCM2 Experiment
Level 20 Lawful Neutral Human Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 12 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 334
Spell Points: 629 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 20
Reflex: 13
Will: 17

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 21                   22
Dexterity            15                 17                   18
Constitution         16                 18                   18
Intelligence          8                 10                   10
Wisdom               14                 16                   18
Charisma             10                 12                   12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    15
Bluff                 0                     2
Concentration         3                    28
Diplomacy             0                    11
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                0                     2
Heal                  2                     6
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            0                     2
Jump                  6                    23
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  2                     4
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirling Steel Strike


Level 10 (Fighter)


Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Cleric)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Kensei Longsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Cleansing I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Cleansing II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality II
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I

So what do you think?

[LAWPRE]

There are a couple of Radiant Servant (RS) abilities that have questions at this time.

1 - does Paladin (as well as Hunter of the Dead [HoTD] PrE) add to RS turns. If the answer is yes and yes, you would want to go to Pal 6 for the synergy. Even with no and yes, Pal 6 would be something to think about. Otherwise, ftr is better.

2 -Is it a bug that RS aura DOES NOT WORK IN COMBAT. After all, if the aura drops when you are attacked RS II is of limited (if any) use. If it is not a bug, Pal (HoTD II) 12/ Cler (RS I)/Monk 2 might be a better option.

IF you go the fighter route, Monk 3/ ftr 5 is the better route. You get TWF as a Monk choice AND you give the Fist of Light Heal buff from Path of Harmonious Balance. You can take ITWF early and maybe squeeze GTWF as well.

Also, as you get Bear's Endurance as a spell, I would switch your Cha and Con scores. Otherwise, your turns will not be as effective as you would like or the toon would be heavily gear dependant.

[MrCow]

does Paladin (as well as Hunter of the Dead [HoTD] PrE) add to RS turns. If the answer is yes and yes, you would want to go to Pal 6 for the synergy. Even with no and yes, Pal 6 would be something to think about. Otherwise, ftr is better.

A character can not possess Radiant Servant and Hunter of the Dead. Radiant Servant requires Cleric Improved Turning I and Hunter of the Dead requires Paladin Improved Turning I. As taking one of the Improved Turning enhancements blocks the ability to take the other one this causes the two prestige enhancements to be mutually exclusive.

[LAWPRE]

THIS time, i checked a bit more thoroughly and Defender of Siberys add Turn attempts as well. So, the synergy question still remains.

[Muldamai]

I'll come back and address this again in a day or two, just working too much and am frazzled. Will do some research on the Paladin type build, along with clarifying what I think I can get out of the build. Thanks for some thoughts so far, LAWPRE.

[Phidius]

Not sure I understand why you want to use longswords... is it more for flavor?

I'd think that instead of Whirling Steel Strike, you could take (please forgive me) Exotic Profiiency: Khopesh for more damage.

My 2-monk splashes only go into stance for...

1. Vorpaling
2. Extra SP from Water stance before buffing

Honest question - why longswords over khopeshes?

[p3n1x0r]

cuz that follower of soverign host or dol dorns champion...some cleric enhancement allows them to use longswords, because by default they cannot use longswords...

khopesh is another feat.

[kaobang]

one more reason to use longsword is to stay centered as a monk (monk bracers +25% healing amp, fist of light, healing ki ...)

that's really bad that we can't be radiant servant and hotd (+healing amp) ...

[LAWPRE]

@Koabang - yes, but it does solve a problem (can a 6/8/6 be viable?). I guess they were worried about someone making a megabad undead hunter!!!

@Phidius - presently with my Pal/Monk combo, I cannot use Elemental Finishers and such while using a Long Sword as I am not centered. NOW, though, I can smite, fire, fire, fire - fin without having to click in and out of stances. This makes for quicker combat and I can even wield a Holy (okay vorpal) Long Sword while doing it. Bladed Holy weapons are available much earlier than Holy handwraps.

[kingfisher]

can you bump your cha? if you can get it to base 12 and a +2 tome will get you Divine might I, 14 and a tome for DMII. the damage is nice, and with the regenerating turns you can keep it going all the time. imo to get there you drop con and wis a point each, all into cha. thats +4 dam every swing, and you can make up the stat points with tomes, eventually.