I am so angry!

[Rav'n]

You Should Read More About Builds And Try Out A Build Planner To Get The Hang Of It Before Trying To Instruct Others, It Could Really Help You.

Roflmao!!!

YOur wife called.... she wants her "Bucket of Fail" back.... she has more trash to throw out.

[WeaselKing]

Actually, Paul E Morph is the F2P account of a vet looking to bypass a forum ban.

His join date = his old ban date.

Really, kinda funny.

Nobody ever called into question his join date, they simply stated that he should look at the join date of others before calling them noobs. However, given even his forum bypassing join date I can tell that he doesn't learn well and I don't expect him to learn anything here either.

[Bilger]

Aren't you aware that you get another stat point at every fourth level?

Are you seriously suggesting someone take INT at lvl ups LMAO

Only build can see doing this and even then is a mechanic using repeaters for a lil extra damage. Even then most people will put into dex. Or a wiz/rogue.

At most need to start int at 14 and +2 tome at 7 are suffecient to max rogue skills.

So your points IMO and everyone elses it seem s is mute maybe you should read some builds lol and understand what talking about first.

[EKKM]

I disagree

Aren't you aware that you get another stat point at every fourth level?

By taking that extra level of rogue so early you are making a mistake when waiting a little while longer you are getting more INT points.

More INT = More skill points. Really, it's easy to understand.

Furthermore they sell +2 INT tomes in the DDO store so yes, most people are packing +2 INT Tomes.

Finally you just don't need evasion before lvl 16.

You should read more about builds and try out a build planner to get the hang of it before trying to instruct others, it could really help you.

If you are on a rogue splash build other than a wizard any you are putting level up points into INT you are doing it wrong. Most rogue splashes take rogue level 2 at level 8-10.

And evasion isn't required at any point in the game but it is nice to have at any level.

[LordPiglet]

And here I thought the only reason to not solo Tear was for the optionals...

Atleast on normal, maybe hard, I've run it on my exploiter and just needed an Int pot.

[WeaselKing]

I disagree

Aren't you aware that you get another stat point at every fourth level?

[toughguyjoe]

You are making them wrong then but thats a common mistake.

Suree, take first level of rogue at first level (as per your example) but you need to wait until at least 12th, though I prefer 16th, for that second level of rogue. Here is why:

a. You dont need evasion at low levels.
b. You want to wait until you have the highest possible INT and thus able to get the benefit from the extra skill points. This means you may even want to wait until lvl 20 but I find waiting until lvl 16 adequate.

PS: Threadjacking in progress.

I disagree

Aren't you aware that you get another stat point at every fourth level?

By taking that extra level of rogue so early you are making a mistake when waiting a little while longer you are getting more INT points.

More INT = More skill points. Really, it's easy to understand.

Furthermore they sell +2 INT tomes in the DDO store so yes, most people are packing +2 INT Tomes.

Finally you just don't need evasion before lvl 16.

You should read more about builds and try out a build planner to get the hang of it before trying to instruct others, it could really help you.

Boy it sure is nice to have so many knowledgable people on Argo to come and Slap you down a bit and let you know where I was coming from on the build ideas, as well as your attitude.

I got to have a good long nights sleep, wake up...have breakfast, mow the lawn...go pick my friend up from work...head down to the beach..

I come home, figuring I'll have to Post something in there, after reading your response, but no!

Intelligent, firm minded members of the argo community, whom I <3 and respect have already done the job of correcting you and letting you know whats up!

Thanks guys! <3

[SquelchHU]

Boy it sure is nice to have so many knowledgable people on Argo to come and Slap you down a bit and let you know where I was coming from on the build ideas, as well as your attitude.

I got to have a good long nights sleep, wake up...have breakfast, mow the lawn...go pick my friend up from work...head down to the beach..

I come home, figuring I'll have to Post something in there, after reading your response, but no!

Intelligent, firm minded members of the argo community, whom I <3 and respect have already done the job of correcting you and letting you know whats up!

Thanks guys! <3

Yeah, they beat me to it as well.

[Bilger]

Boy it sure is nice to have so many knowledgable people on Argo to come and Slap you down a bit and let you know where I was coming from on the build ideas, as well as your attitude.

I got to have a good long nights sleep, wake up...have breakfast, mow the lawn...go pick my friend up from work...head down to the beach..

I come home, figuring I'll have to Post something in there, after reading your response, but no!

Intelligent, firm minded members of the argo community, whom I <3 and respect have already done the job of correcting you and letting you know whats up!

Thanks guys! <3

Well not from argo just reading forums and couldn't help but remark on such a blatantly stupid remark lol

[IgorUnchained]

You forgot to ridicule his 5cleric/3rogue build.

On a serious note, whenever I make an Evasion splash toon, I usually wait if its a caster. take rogue at level one, then second rogue level around 10 or 11. Its easier to cast/heal etc. At lower level with more caster levels obviously.

But hey, its your sexy toon, you do what you want!

Oh and the old chestnut:

"Any Low to Mid level Melee thats Belly-Achin' about the Heals oughta buy some dern Potions!"

I stand by that by the way. Tear of Dhakaan needs only good tactics and a half stack of pots per party member.

/Signed

I just ran Tear yesterday with a guy who was still wearing mostly Korthos Gear and who I had to give proper armor to (lvl 4 armor). We were both lvl 7. He was a Barb/Rogue, so he was going to be able to bring the dps and trap/lock abilities that I didnt have as a bard (warchanter, but in healing and CC mode more than I like). We did the whole dungeon and every tear in respectable time and without any problems.

Id rather have a 2 man party that works well together than a 6 man party doing its own thing (without wisdom). Im sure Im not at all alone on that.

[Zippo]

Yesterday my half cleric half rogue character was doing "Tear of Dhakaan" with a full group.I was the only healer and there is no WHOLE rogue in the team.We did it on normal.After we started the quest.The team leader said he doesn't know know that quest very well.And there was one guy said,he knows that quest but he hates leading.
Then the team is kinda split up.
Me and the other 2 ppl was heading to the way with fire trap.When I was disabling the trap,someone in another part of this group said "You dont even need to go that way,we dont have a rog." Then I said "I am a rogue..." After I finished that part,I went to catch another group.I tried to heal one by one.The only wiz said "heal me" before his turn.So I heal him first.After that,we kept going to the underwater part.The group split up again.Some ppl went into the water straight,and some ppl were fighting at the top floor(includ me).I was out of mana,so I started healing ppl with the wand I bought.The wiz spoke again:
"It's sad we r dying on normal"
"Because we got a bad healer"
"why you are a lev5 cleric lev3 rogue,not a lev7 cleric lev1 rogue?"

He really **** me off.So I said "fine,the you go to find the other better healer".
He replied "ok,bye".And nobody said any thing for me.The team leader just kept saying "come into the water".
So I recalled and quit.Later I saw they posted and looked for "rogue" or "healer".(with a 5 ppl group)That was really stupid...

Sorry but when I saw the title all I could think of was Marvin the Martian




More on topic though, I'm not sure why you went with a 5/3 split like you did but whatever thats your thing not mine. Now with that said, they accepted you in the group and if they don't like it or you don't like the way they treat you, you just don't run with them. You just move on.

[Mazeratti]

Yesterday my half cleric half rogue character was doing "Tear of Dhakaan" with a full group.I was the only healer and there is no WHOLE rogue in the team.We did it on normal.After we started the quest.The team leader said he doesn't know know that quest very well.And there was one guy said,he knows that quest but he hates leading.
Then the team is kinda split up.
Me and the other 2 ppl was heading to the way with fire trap.When I was disabling the trap,someone in another part of this group said "You dont even need to go that way,we dont have a rog." Then I said "I am a rogue..." After I finished that part,I went to catch another group.I tried to heal one by one.The only wiz said "heal me" before his turn.So I heal him first.After that,we kept going to the underwater part.The group split up again.Some ppl went into the water straight,and some ppl were fighting at the top floor(includ me).I was out of mana,so I started healing ppl with the wand I bought.The wiz spoke again:

"It's sad we r dying on normal"
"Because we got a bad healer"

"why you are a lev5 cleric lev3 rogue,not a lev7 cleric lev1 rogue?"

He really **** me off.So I said "fine,the you go to find the other better healer".
He replied "ok,bye".And nobody said any thing for me.The team leader just kept saying "come into the water".
So I recalled and quit.Later I saw they posted and looked for "rogue" or "healer".(with a 5 ppl group)That was really stupid...

To which you reply - "its sad that you play so bad you need a healer to keep you alive" then you hand him a Hireling Vendor's business card LOL

[herzkos]

To which you reply - "its sad that you play so bad you need a healer to keep you alive" then you hand him a Hireling Vendor's business card LOL

ok, I so need to get a stack of those. cleric and arcane (for the wf "stars").

[Autolycus]

To which you reply - "its sad that you play so bad you need a healer to keep you alive" then you hand him a Hireling Vendor's business card LOL

LOL. That's a great idea. You should post that in the Suggestions forum. I'd love for my cleric to be able to hand out hireling vendor business cards to special people.

Edit: Unfortunately I'm on a +rep timer
Edit 2: just got off timer