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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    except for the fact that reincarnation gives you more to grind for and keeps you playing, if you deconstructed greensteel than that takes away from the grind and you'd have less too do. When you have less too do, you become bored of the game and leave. than turbine makes less money.
    This game has become all about the grind, turbine's not going to change it cause it's what they want you doing!
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    Greensteel deconstruction would give people less to do? Not likely. More likely people would be more flexible about grinding for Epic gear without also having to worry so much about re-grinding for Greensteel to slot the Epic items.

    FYI...the Shroud will continue to be the most popular quest in the game because:

    1. 10 high level raid chests in < 30 minutes
    2. Guaranteed UNBOUND raid loot that can be used or sold or traded
    3. Best chance in the game at a +3 tome you can use at 20/40/60/etc. completions

    Greensteel deconstruction would have ZERO impact on Shroud popularity.
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    Obvious solution time:

    Place a deconstruction alter at the end of shroud elite (and in guild airship at level 50?).

    Make each ingredient recovered make a d20 roll where 1-10 is destroyed. Make a new rare drop from shroud end chest lower that roll to 1-5. And make a ddo store purchase lower it by 2, 1-3.

    Everyone wins. People will by the DDO store version and continue to grind, bc they will not want to lose their larges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    Your logic holds in regards to rebuilding the same toon. It does not hold when applied to building another different toon. Adding a toon = more grind.

    I would support a way to make deconstruction something that is limited. 1 item per account per week or something similar would suffice. If it is purchasable from the store, the debate now becomes "do I buy a weapon deconstruct for something I dont use or do I run the shroud until I get more ingredients? If people are buying piles and piles of deconstructions, I hardly see how that would negatively impact Turbines revenue.
    If Turbine didn't want you to grind it out and make huge amount of money in the ddo store than they would of just sold large ingredient in the store to make huge money. After all, they already offer small ingredients, so it wouldn't be a big step for them. You'd more likely to see large ingredients sold in the store first before any type of deconstruct item is created. The fact that they haven't put large ingredients in the store pretty much sums up their intent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    If Turbine didn't want you to grind it out and make huge amount of money in the ddo store than they would of just sold large ingredient in the store to make huge money. After all, they already offer small ingredients, so it wouldn't be a big step for them. You'd more likely to see large ingredients sold in the store first before any type of deconstruct item is created. The fact that they haven't put large ingredients in the store pretty much sums up their intent!
    I dont feel its the same. Selling all of the ingredients needed would take all effort out having to create any items.

    People already put that effort in to make items that were viable for their build, previous to the build being changed, and by proxy of that change, the weapons are not nearly as viable for the build. Now people want to see some return on the effort they put in farming ingredients years ago.

    The comparison isnt even apples to oranges. Its more like apples to pick up trucks.
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    I do not agree with the concept of greensteel deconstruction. I like that greensteel is a heafty investment, as they are very much more powerful than random drops and you can customize them to your needs.

    Allowing deconstruction of greensteels removes the cognitive planning involved and would allow one to simply change the items around for whatever they plan to run next. As it is now, it makes the player seriously consider what they need now, what they need for the future and what they can afford to build, this is ideal and should go unchanged.

    In regards to the idea that its easier to get epic items- i agree it is too easy to get epic items. It's too much based on luck. Ide have epic shards drop far more often, but the items require like 20 of them, that way noone can build an epic in three very lucky von6 runs, but will definitely have it within 20-30 runs.



    so, not /signed. no GS Deconstruction please, just think through your decisions more thoroughly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thame View Post
    Do any of the devs ever respond to these posts?
    Not usually but if somebody says they'll pay for something, that perks their attention, you can bet your storepoints on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    I dont feel its the same. Selling all of the ingredients needed would take all effort out having to create any items.

    People already put that effort in to make items that were viable for their build, previous to the build being changed, and by proxy of that change, the weapons are not nearly as viable for the build. Now people want to see some return on the effort they put in farming ingredients years ago.

    The comparison isnt even apples to oranges. Its more like apples to pick up trucks.
    You can rebuild your toon now to match your greensteel more effectively, so that arguement doesn't hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eulogy098 View Post
    I do not agree with the concept of greensteel deconstruction. I like that greensteel is a heafty investment, as they are very much more powerful than random drops and you can customize them to your needs.

    Allowing deconstruction of greensteels removes the cognitive planning involved and would allow one to simply change the items around for whatever they plan to run next. As it is now, it makes the player seriously consider what they need now, what they need for the future and what they can afford to build, this is ideal and should go unchanged.

    so, not /signed. no GS Deconstruction please, just think through your decisions more thoroughly
    So....we should meticulously plan around items and nerfs / builds / PrE / capstones / classes / races / etc. that haven't been released yet? Like the Epic gear that wasn't released when we carefully planned out our Greensteel items? I envy you and your crystal ball that knows what changes Turbine is bringing next...
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    I would deconstruct even if you said I that I would only get my scales back.
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