Greensteel Deconstruction

[Thame]

Considering we now have epic items, the changes to TWH and THF, alot of people now have greensteel weapons, items they can no longer use. I am one of them. I used to have a crit rage barb dual wielding rapier/SS combo. I made 2 sets of these now. I spent a ton of time farming ingredients and am now stuck farming again to do the same in greataxes.
It has been entioned in numerous threads about this. Can you somehow implement this in game? Or if you never plan to add it, then tell us.
Greensteel has essentially become a mid level crafting for those that dont want to run epic quests for items. So we want our greensteel items/weapons. But now there are alot less people running shroud due to epic items so it takes even longer to get ingreds to craft.

Toss us some info please.

Heres a money maker. Post a deconstruct item in the DDO store that will break down greensteel to its origional components. Hell I would buy those in a second to avoid the grind again.

[Deathnights]

/agreed

[Thame]

Do any of the devs ever respond to these posts?

[Thucydides04]

Do any of the devs ever respond to these posts?

No, and I agree with your original post. It really sucks that the devs keep pulling out the nerf bat because people make good toons based on the way the rules are. If the devs want to keep changing the rules, then let us adapt by recrafting GS.

[Zennestia]

What do you think about binding greensteel items to account, rather than to character?

Instead of cleansing an item on a 20th,40th,60th shroud run, you could optionally change a greensteel item to 'bound to account'.

This would provide a great deal more flexibility for people whose characters have been affected by updates.
Those rapiers could be passed to the rogue alt you are levelling etc

[daniel7]

/signed

...but I doubt they plan on adding deconstruction to the game. I even suggested that when we deconstruct that we take a chance of losing some of the ingredients in the process...I would deconstruct with the 1/5 - 1/4 chance of not getting all of the ingredients back.

[Chai]

What do you think about binding greensteel items to account, rather than to character?

Instead of cleansing an item on a 20th,40th,60th shroud run, you could optionally change a greensteel item to 'bound to account'.

This would provide a great deal more flexibility for people whose characters have been affected by updates.
Those rapiers could be passed to the rogue alt you are levelling etc

At first I liked this idea, but in the long run I have to disagree. Now you have one account of toons using the same weapons. Just put them into the shared bank before you log the toon off daily. The next time you log a toon on you can use those same weapons.

Hi, my non TR melee now have GS at level 12.

I prefer deconstruction. Turbine changed the game enough to make previously viable options much less viable, which by proxy makes all the hard work and effort put in on those toons nullified. Deconstruction would give us most of that effort back.

[Do'Urden]

Heres a money maker. Post a deconstruct item in the DDO store that will break down greensteel to its origional components. Hell I would buy those in a second to avoid the grind again.

This.

I find myself having to re-craft to fit in Epic items. It's hard enough to grind for Epic items without having to also plan for re-grinding Shroud ingredients, shards, blanks, etc.

And please....for the love of all things DDO please fix the Refuge crafting slot machine for the same reasons.

[Darkrok]

At first I liked this idea, but in the long run I have to disagree. Now you have one account of toons using the same weapons. Just put them into the shared bank before you log the toon off daily. The next time you log a toon on you can use those same weapons.

Hi, my non TR melee now have GS at level 12.

I prefer deconstruction. Turbine changed the game enough to make previously viable options much less viable, which by proxy makes all the hard work and effort put in on those toons nullified. Deconstruction would give us most of that effort back.

How about changing them to bind on equip AND bound to account?

[SaisMatters]

Deconstruct is a bad idea. PERIOD! Once you do greensteel people would be crying to deconstruct SOS armor and TOD rings and EPIC items and the whining would never stop.

[Nyvn]

Deconstruct is a bad idea. PERIOD! Once you do greensteel people would be crying to deconstruct SOS armor and TOD rings and EPIC items and the whining would never stop.

SOS runes overwrite one another; so it's easy to change.

Epic items can be cleansed to the bare epic item.

[Dendrix]

Considering we now have epic items, the changes to TWH and THF, alot of people now have greensteel weapons, items they can no longer use. I am one of them.

Hi, I'm afraid the basic premise that you detail above is incorrect. You can still use the items you have made.

[Gkar]

Do any of the devs ever respond to these posts?

I believe they responded to this question in a podcast with "no"

I'd be happy just to get back the Stone and the large ingredients.

[Battlehawke]

I agree. With all the recent changes, many people have changed the way they play their toons and are now stuck with GS items that they can no longer use effectively. It would be great to see a way to get at least some of the items back, or even just to change the type of weapon from one to another or do the same with a wearable item. Also, if you could add Gs shields, that would be awesome.

Thanks Turbine
Battlehawke

[SaisMatters]

SOS runes overwrite one another; so it's easy to change.

Epic items can be cleansed to the bare epic item.

yes but people would start whining that they should be able to get there runes back and try again without going through the grind. I've already seen posts of people crying about the grind on the sos lottery. How long do you think it would be before they were crying about getting their runes back.

[Do'Urden]

Deconstruct is a bad idea. PERIOD! Once you do greensteel people would be crying to deconstruct SOS armor and TOD rings and EPIC items and the whining would never stop.

• Once you let players re-spec their stat points, skill points, and feats, they'll want to re-spec levels
• Once you let players re-spec levels, they'll want to re-spec their entire characters
• DDDOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!

I remember the endless whining and opposition to Reincarnation / Respec. I'll bet all my Greensteel that Reincarnation has been a massive financial windfall for Turbine and has kept players around that would otherwise be spending their money elsewhere.

Given that Turbine is motivated to make money, I'm pretty sure Greensteel deconstruction would be something that many would pay for. Let's see...Bunny Hat or being able to recover ingredients from that Greensteel Helm gathering dust in my bank (for example)? Hmmm....

[SaisMatters]

I think a better idea would be an exchange system for ingredients like they do for Relics in Gianthold

[SaisMatters]

• Once you let players re-spec their stat points, skill points, and feats, they'll want to re-spec levels
• Once you let players re-spec levels, they'll want to re-spec their entire characters
• DDDOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!

I remember the endless whining and opposition to Reincarnation / Respec. I'll bet all my Greensteel that Reincarnation has been a massive financial windfall for Turbine and has kept players around that would otherwise be spending their money elsewhere.

Given that Turbine is motivated to make money, I'm pretty sure Greensteel deconstruction would be something that many would pay for. Let's see...Bunny Hat or being able to recover ingredients from that Greensteel Helm gathering dust in my bank (for example)? Hmmm....

except for the fact that reincarnation gives you more to grind for and keeps you playing, if you deconstructed greensteel than that takes away from the grind and you'd have less too do. When you have less too do, you become bored of the game and leave. than turbine makes less money.
This game has become all about the grind, turbine's not going to change it cause it's what they want you doing!

[Chai]

How about changing them to bind on equip AND bound to account?

Bind on equip means bound to toon when that toon equips it. This does not change anything regarding people having made alot of GS in the past that is now useless to them because the game was changed enough to make what was once viable no longer as viable.

People have already equipped the GS they made so those items are bound.

Also, If I want to craft between toons on the same account I can already pass ingredients over from toon to toon.

The change from crit rage barb to FB barb made alot of weapons less optimal in a min maxing game. I still support deconstruction, as it gives the effort used to earn those ingredients back to the person in the form of the same.

[Chai]

except for the fact that reincarnation gives you more to grind for and keeps you playing, if you deconstructed greensteel than that takes away from the grind and you'd have less too do. When you have less too do, you become bored of the game and leave. than turbine makes less money.
This game has become all about the grind, turbine's not going to change it cause it's what they want you doing!

Your logic holds in regards to rebuilding the same toon. It does not hold when applied to building another different toon. Adding a toon = more grind.

I would support a way to make deconstruction something that is limited. 1 item per account per week or something similar would suffice. If it is purchasable from the store, the debate now becomes "do I buy a weapon deconstruct for something I dont use or do I run the shroud until I get more ingredients? If people are buying piles and piles of deconstructions, I hardly see how that would negatively impact Turbines revenue.