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    Community Member jamad1's Avatar
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    Default assasin singer

    Would someone please critique this and give me pointers on a better direction.

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    assasin  singer
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (14 Rogue \ 6 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 242
    Spell Points: 435 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    19
    Dexterity            16                    19
    Constitution         16                    16
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             10                    12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               7                    27
    Bluff                 0                     5
    Concentration         3                     7
    Diplomacy             0                     1
    Disable Device        5                    24
    Haggle                4                    26
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  5                    12
    Intimidate            0                     1
    Jump                  2                     5
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently         7                    17
    Open Lock             7                    27
    Perform               n/a                  23
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                5                    23
    Spot                  3                    14
    Swim                  4                    10
    Tumble                7                    16
    Use Magic Device      4                    26
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    
    
    Level 9 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Bard Concentration II
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling Strike
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
    Enhancement: Bard Haggle II
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    why 6 bard?

    if you go 18/2 you get assassin 3 and free vorpals also not sure where you are going with the spring attack line


    cheers
    hob

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    The level splits work against you.

    You'll only get a +3 to hit and +4 damage from your song with 6 bard. Going to 8 Bard will get your song up to +5/+6 and will also give you 3 3rd level spells. I would consider 8 Bard the minimum for a melee oriented Bard Splash.

    On the Assassin side, you mis out on the Vorpal strikes at 18 and only get Assasinate at 12. But that's mased on your Rogue levels and Int bonus, niether of which are particularly high.

    A 12/8 Mechanic would probably be better, but it would be hard to pull off because of the number of feats required and the fact that niether Bards nor Rogues have any aplicable bonus feats.

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    Default back to the drwaing board

    Oh well. I see what you mean. It was a concept build. I like bard, but am a better rogue. I thought if I went spell singer I could do light CC while I SA while the rest of the group is rushing them from the front.


    Thank for the input.
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    Call it the Don McLean. Killing me softly with his song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calebro View Post
    Call it the Don McLean. Killing me softly with his song.
    or the pat benetar hit me with your best shot

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