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    I'm looking for some advice as to what type of HP item to craft on my warforged Kensei III fighter Krythan. I had an air/air/air gs, but I knew I could do better. For the most part my gear is set since I now have my Frenzy and Shintoa rings .

    Current layout:
    Head: Minos
    Goggles: Tharne's
    Necklace: Shintoa
    Docent: DT: Healing 10%, Crushing Wave, Earthen Guard
    Bracers: Levicks
    Ring: Shintoa
    Ring: Frenzy
    Boots: Madstone
    Gloves: Spectral Gloves or Titan's
    Belt: Frenzy
    Cloak: Greensteel HP item
    Trinket: Bloodstone

    As for greensteel item: price or large ingredients aren't an issue

    Possible ideas:
    EDIT: Added earthgrab

    Mineral II:
    Good: +durability, and stoneskin clicky (though I could just make a tier II)
    Not useful: I have no AC, so prot +5 isn't that useful, and Heavy Fort is already on Minos

    Concord Opp:
    Good: 4% chance to proc temp HP. With minimal AC, and very low DR (compared to a barbarian) this could be useful
    Not useful: sp proc doesn't do anything for me, +6 wisdom is already on Shintao ring

    Lighting Strike:
    Very nice guard... though I have Tharne's so I try not to grab aggro unless I'm the only tank - as a result, it wouldn't go off much.

    Disintegration Guard:
    Same as Lightning Strike - good guard... though questionable if proc would go off enough to be worth it.

    Radiance Guard:
    Good: Decent chance, small damage
    Not Useful: maybe not appropriate for a melee, and blinded mobs are kinda annoying.

    Earthgrab
    Earthgrab 5%? DC 35 hold monster.
    2x Summon Dense Stone Earth Elemental

    What is your 2cp? What type of GS hp item should I craft for Krythan?
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    IMO:

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    helm: Epic red draogn helmet (+1 more str, some guards, and +4 res in the slot)
    CLoak: air air air (+45 hp)
    Bracers: kundarak with heavy fort in the slot until U6, when you use Epic bracers of the claw
    Gloves: Epic gloves of the claw, when released
    Armor: go with salt guard at tier 2, better than crushing, and go with radiance at tier 3
    Belt: ravager
    Ring: ravager

    (ravager is 2d6 per hit, = 7 dmg, fb is 2 dmg, total dps increase is higher with ravager than with fb, unless it's a undead / construct)

    Finally looking like this:

    Items
    Armor - Dragontouched: 10% healing amp, corrosive salt guard, Radience Guard
    Bracers - Epic bracers of the claw: heavy fort, +6 con, GFL
    Ring - Shintao ring: +6 Wis, +1 Str, +20% healing
    Boots - Madstone boots: 20% striding, madstone effect
    Gloves - Epic gloves of the Claw: +6 strength, 30% healing amp, +4 damage bonus from set
    Ring - Ravager ring: 6 str, +1 str, +2 str
    Belt - Ravager belt: +2 seeker, +6 con
    Cloak - Shroud crafted: +45 hp, haste clicky, +6 dex skills, air guard
    Trinket - Epic bloodstone: +8 seeker
    Necklace - Shintao: +6 con +15 concentration
    Helmet - Epic red dragon helmet: +4 res, magma surge guard, fire shield (fire), +7 str
    Goggles - Tharnes goggles: +5 SA, true seeing, +15 search, +15 spot.
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    Ok. great gear layout, but your greensteel: Why triple air, and why did you choose minII?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    Ok. great gear layout, but your greensteel: Why triple air, and why did you choose minII?
    Ops, haven't updated that list (copied it from my text document) it's supposed to be air air air.
    Editing the previous post.

    Triple air because it's
    1. cheap
    2. haste clicky is sweet
    3. air guard is also sweet.

    All you really do it for is the hp, and imo air guard is one of the better guards to make it into.
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    Lol. well: Krythan already has an air hp gs, but I know I can do better.

    My rogue has been wearing a triple air CHA skills cloak for over a year now - and the proc from air guard is disappointing.

    As for greensteel item: price or large ingredients aren't an issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    Lol. well: Krythan already has an air hp gs, but I know I can do better.

    My rogue has been wearing a triple air CHA skills cloak for over a year now - and the proc from air guard is disappointing.

    As for greensteel item: price or large ingredients aren't an issue
    Then I suggest radiance guard, as it's the only really good guard out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    Ops, haven't updated that list (copied it from my text document) it's supposed to be air air air.
    Editing the previous post.

    Triple air because it's
    1. cheap
    2. haste clicky is sweet
    3. air guard is also sweet.

    All you really do it for is the hp, and imo air guard is one of the better guards to make it into.
    Why would u be worried about being cheap on that current set? Assuming that u got that gear, larges is the least thing you are worried about.
    Would go either lightning or disintegration guard + 45hp.
    You can always craft a haste clickie / +6 cha skills items later on if u really want the clickie..
    I personally find air guard useless end game..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderTank View Post
    Why would u be worried about being cheap on that current set? Assuming that u got that gear, larges is the least thing you are worried about.
    Would go either lightning or disintegration guard + 45hp.
    You can always craft a haste clickie / +6 cha skills items later on if u really want the clickie..
    I personally find air guard useless end game..
    Well, for me for example, I have got most of hte listed items, but still haven't even begun crafting my cloak - as I just started here in US I don't have that many larges, and it's time-based on how many chars you have, and I only really have 2 chars I shroud with, and both need weapons(s) and item(s) crafted from shroud.

    Cost aside, I'd go with radiance guard, hands down, nothing like having the epic mobs miss 50% of their hits.

    freezing ice guard is a good pick as well, better than e-grab as it last about twice as long, though a small benefit for a large cost. (pun intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    IMO:

    Change
    helm: Epic red draogn helmet (+1 more str, some guards, and +4 res in the slot)
    CLoak: air air air (+45 hp)
    Bracers: kundarak with heavy fort in the slot until U6, when you use Epic bracers of the claw
    Gloves: Epic gloves of the claw, when released
    Armor: go with salt guard at tier 2, better than crushing, and go with radiance at tier 3
    Belt: ravager
    Ring: ravager

    (ravager is 2d6 per hit, = 7 dmg, fb is 2 dmg, total dps increase is higher with ravager than with fb, unless it's a undead / construct)

    Finally looking like this:

    Items
    Armor - Dragontouched: 10% healing amp, corrosive salt guard, Radience Guard
    Bracers - Epic bracers of the claw: heavy fort, +6 con, GFL
    Ring - Shintao ring: +6 Wis, +1 Str, +20% healing
    Boots - Madstone boots: 20% striding, madstone effect
    Gloves - Epic gloves of the Claw: +6 strength, 30% healing amp, +4 damage bonus from set
    Ring - Ravager ring: 6 str, +1 str, +2 str
    Belt - Ravager belt: +2 seeker, +6 con
    Cloak - Shroud crafted: +45 hp, haste clicky, +6 dex skills, air guard
    Trinket - Epic bloodstone: +8 seeker
    Necklace - Shintao: +6 con +15 concentration
    Helmet - Epic red dragon helmet: +4 res, magma surge guard, fire shield (fire), +7 str
    Goggles - Tharnes goggles: +5 SA, true seeing, +15 search, +15 spot.
    Those gloves and bracers of the claw made me drool a little bit. Very hot items!!! Good call on the ravenger set over the encrusted set, much better bang for the buck.
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    Ok, another question:
    I don't know where to slot some misc greensteel items such as:
    • Exceptional CHA Skills
    • 45pt Fire Resist.
    • Displace Clicky


    Current layout:
    Head: Minos
    Goggles: Tharne's
    Necklace: Shintoa
    Docent: DT: Healing 10%, (Will be Healing 20%), Earthen Guard
    Bracers: Claw
    Ring: Shintoa
    Ring: Frenzy
    Boots: Madstone
    Gloves: Claw
    Belt: Frenzy
    Cloak: Greensteel Earthgrab
    Trinket: Bloodstone
    Weapon: Epic Sword of Shadows

    Frenzy will be swapped for Ravager eventually, and Claw is hopefully gonna get epic treatment.

    What's the best slot for me to craft some situational useful Greenteel items on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    What's the best slot for me to craft some situational useful Greenteel items on?
    As you'll have a lot of agro, especially with extra hate from the claw set, crafting goggles to swap with Tharne's could be a good idea.

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    Good point, though I'd hate to loose the +8 to damage in situations such as Shroud where aggro spins around.... though if I epic the gloves of the claw to +30% threat, he's gonna be pretty focused on me!

    Does using the helm slot make sense?

    normal Bracers of the Claw give me heavy fort, so removing minos is just -20 hp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Consumer View Post
    As you'll have a lot of agro, especially with extra hate from the claw set, crafting goggles to swap with Tharne's could be a good idea.
    If you are using the CHA skills bonus for intimidate then Tharnes are no use - so goggles is probably a good slot. Any UMD use is likely situational - so again goggles will be fine.

    Most only-for-clickies wont be cleansed, so put them all in the same slot.

    Since you already have HF on the claw set, in situations where a 45 resist is useful it maybe be better than an extra 20 HP. So helmet slot should be fine.
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    Thanks! Good thinking! That's the conclusion that I am coming to:

    45pt Exceptional Fire Resist:
    • Helmet
    • Loss of 20 hp (minos toughness)


    +6 Exceptional CHA skills (umd)
    • For UMDing
    • Stacks w/ Epic Big Top (+3 enhancement UMD)
    • Loss of sneak damage isn't an issue when I am UMD-ing


    (only concern with helmet is that If I ever get Epic Red Dragon Helm, I couldn't benefit from Incineration guard, and Magma Surge guard at the same time)
    Last edited by Goldeneye; 09-08-2010 at 04:00 PM.
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