Suggested New Class

[BLugas]

As already indicated above, I have been investigating the possibility of adding a Warlock class to DDO for in excess of three years.

Great,that's a start, now why don't you actually do something for the implementation of this dream, I mean other games have it, why doesn't DDO has it then?!
we have to fight for our dreams, if we don't, we lose hope, and fighting for a cause is the most beautiful action that can ever be done, if you Sought something and failed, keep trying, eventually you will succeed , just as Kaelyn presumably brought down the wall of the faithless , you might actually do this, sometimes we have to take a stand.
people are rambling about the druid too, but did someone actually fought for it?-no, that is the why of their failure, they did not fight for it, they just stood there, hoping that someone would actually take the stand for them...
sometimes, we have to take a stand, otherwise , people will just walk all over you.
if you are willing to do something, do it then, never give up, never forget, if that is is your will,that is all I ask: keep fighting,someday, somehow, we will make it, when one endures, he shows strength, and that inspires others,making that cause a fight that we can, and will believe in.

OMG, I think this was the most beautiful and poetic post I have ever done! what about a poem, or rather, a song, an illustration , a work of art!
but then again, I might be just hoping in vain...

[Angelus_dead]

Erm...are you guys still talking about warlocks being implimented? Because I'm seeing a lot of E-Peens here. It would be great if all the fluffing up, squacking and preening could be done in private messages between you guys...you know...so we could discuss Warlocks, DDo and such here.

If that's what you want, the most effective way to promote that would be to lead by example: Go back and find Warlock-related statements which interest you, and reply to them with either elaboration or interrogation.

Come on guys: a few people calling each other names is taking over this thread.

You did some of that yourself: to say "Lazy troll is lazy" isn't much in size or intensity, but it is applying a negative name to some person or another. Although the intention was to chastise someone who was being obnoxious, the result would be a toss up as to if it just inflames him more.

Just. Let. The. thread. DIE.

You do not appear to have justification to issue commands. You didn't start this thread, and you posted only a tiny sliver of the words it contains. That does not create a sense of ownership where it's yours to decide when to dispose of.

In addition, it is fairly self-contradictory to request that people stop posting to a thread by making a post to that thread. If you really want a thread to end, then stop adding to it.

[Angelus_dead]

Great,that's a start, now why don't you actually do something for the implementation of this dream

Aside from posting suggestions and analysis there isn't much I can do. I'm not a Turbine designer, and even if I did work there I'd probably be commanded to work on a nigh-endless list of other tasks before Warlocks could ever be considered.

On top of that, a Warlock class isn't even very high on my personal wish list. I'm in agreement with others who would like both Druids and Artificers first.

[Xyfiel]

Aside from posting suggestions and analysis there isn't much I can do. I'm not a Turbine designer, and even if I did work there I'd probably be commanded to work on a nigh-endless list of other tasks before Warlocks could ever be considered.

On top of that, a Warlock class isn't even very high on my personal wish list. I'm in agreement with others who would like both Druids and Artificers first.

Have you forgotten that Warlock and Warlord were both mentioned as classes on the dev "soon" list? It was in an interview during the long drought of content, too lazy to go find it though.

From everything I have read from Turbine coming "soon"
Half Orc
Half Elf
Warlock
Warlord

And possibly
Gnome
Druid
Shifter
Artificer

[Angelus_dead]

Have you forgotten that Warlock and Warlord were both mentioned as classes on the dev "soon" list?

That did not happen, as is explained in one of the old threads linked above.

The developer comment you're referring to is this one:

The Eberron only stuff is definitely of interest to us and of interest to the design team. We certainly talked in the past about the druid, the half-orc and the half-elf as well and I will be perfectly honest - given the 4.0 rules release and the fact that the druid and the half-orc moved to a supplemental player's handbook, we are reevaluating a lot of these choices right now. We are also looking at the favored soul, at the warlock, at the warlord - things like that - to make sure we are making the best choice.

Nothing in that statements says that Warlock or Warlord will be coming soon.

[BLugas]

That did not happen, as is explained in one of the old threads linked above.
Nothing in that statements says that Warlock or Warlord will be coming soon.

Hmpf...
just when I was getting my hopes high...
I was actually thinking on making some Model-Picture based airbrushing as something like artwork then put it on deviant art...
too bad the client is really needing some new artwork...
that monk looks awful- his fingers are melting, just as his cheeks....
and his eyes are asymmetric ne of his pupils is bigger than the other, indicating that he had suffered traumatic brain damage(just like david bowie).
too bad...anyway I had a lot of trash that could be useful...
but this is really getting off-topic...before implementing warlock they would first have to balance ranged combat (rogue mechanics are now super imba, especially drow ones, but then again I could exploit this, and post a build, probably a 12 rogue 8 fighter or maybe adding some wizard flavor due to the 20 starting int (high dcs))(though most other ranged characters are very, very underbalanced)...
too bad... I really hope that someday, somehow warlocks will be here...along with the eldritch theurge and disciple prcs :<
I am so missing tieflings...might have to resort playing nwn2...

[JonanTane]

I've created a monster.

Oh well, I posted the class as I saw and thought it work, reasons what fore, detailed information on possible choices of Invocations based on the game mechanic's, and scoured through 4-5 different books to do so.

God forbid anyone make a suggestion on the suggestion board without being attacked.

However, my part's done. I had to look up artificer, none of my groups played Eberron. With how spells cost very little, a Duskblade would be super sweet btw.

[Xyfiel]

That did not happen, as is explained in one of the old threads linked above.

The developer comment you're referring to is this one:

Nothing in that statements says that Warlock or Warlord will be coming soon.

So I didn't remember the exact wording, you knew what I meant. So change it to:

Have you forgotten that Warlock and Warlord were both mentioned as classes on the dev "looking at" list.

Nothing in that statement says Fvs were coming soon either, but we know the end to that story.

[Angelus_dead]

God forbid anyone make a suggestion on the suggestion board without being attacked.

You were not attacked. As explained above, pointing out obstacles to an idea is not an attack on the person making the suggestion. In fact, discussing the problems with a concept is the only way they'll ever get solved so it can progress.

[Uska]

A basic question: What is the highest level DDO dungeon that you have completed?


1.10. Dragon magazine is not the D&D rules, and it would not matter anyway.


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Acutually before they stopped printing the paper magazine they decleared rules in it to be offical sometime like a year before. not that I am disagreeing with you about your points against the warlock and one other point there is nothing against someone saying the dont like how you put stuff ie the air about you its not a personal attack or anything, so no need to be to sensitive about it.

[woundweaver]

DRUIDS!!!!


nuff said

[Uska]

I suggest you obey the rules of the forum. I also suggest you think twice about making statements of that form in general.

Now that was a personal attack on you and not cool.

[Igrovin]

That did not happen, as is explained in one of the old threads linked above.

The developer comment you're referring to is this one:

Nothing in that statements says that Warlock or Warlord will be coming soon.

Yes.. Instead they are like "Well our game is 3.5.. but since we are looking for an excuse.. 4.0's druid is in a supplementary players hand book (Is not. Its continuing the PHB. If it was supplementary it would be like the complete primal) So we are going to look at making classes that either don't show at all in 4.0 (Favored soul) or classes that weren't even really announced at the time we are making this post that are in the second "supplementary players handbook" and then this class that isn't in 3.5, but is in the players handbook of 4th."

Its annoying.

[Gulnar13]

So...

Someone really want a class that cast eldritch blasts for 1d6/2 level in a game where the averange pit fiend has more than 50k HP?

IMHO the only reason for i would take a warlock over a wizard/sorc/arcane archer/gimped-ranger-with-a-repeating-crossbow would be for the infinite firewall. But wait - they can't be empowered/maximized - so i would still take a wiz/sorc.

[Angelus_dead]

So...
Someone really want a class that cast eldritch blasts for 1d6/2 level in a game where the averange pit fiend has more than 50k HP?

That would be a problem with adding Warlocks, but it's something that might be fixable. The DDO designers are not required to translate classes word for word (look at the Monk and see how that came out).

It would be super easy to justify giving Warlocks +75% damage from enhancements and +75% from items, because that's pretty much what was was given to Sorcerers and Wizards. Then they could take it a step further and plain old double the Eldritch Blast baseline into 1d6 for each level. And there's even a few more ways to increase it, such as the Hellfire specialty popular in D&D (which sacrifices your own constitution for better blasting)

Changes along those lines would be necessary for a DDO Warlock to make sense. But it's still very hard to design because of how it compares to existing ranged DPS character, which are currently unusuably weak (with the possible exception of AA18)

Basically the developers would face a dilemma:
If Warlock DPS is balanced with existing non-spellpoint ranged DPS, then the Warlock class is too weak for players to enjoy.
If Warlock DPS is strong enough to be attractive to players, then it's overpowered next to existing ranged combat characters.

Therefore, ranged combat should be fixed to be balanced throughout the game before Warlocks can be added.

[Raodin-bel-iori]

My new class of choice would be the dragon shaman. They rock.

[KKDragonLord]

My new class of choice would be the dragon shaman. They rock.

ugh, thats even worse