I beg you! Give me a reason!

[gott_ist_tot]

I find myself using haste pots on my melee toons up to a point of spending 100-200k plat daily and I can't afford it. Is there a viable melee build into which I could squeeze 5 wizard levels for haste? Any reasoning which would let me remain sane, and with a toon not gimped? Or not gimped much?

I want to stop soon. Wall of fire, while awesome mid-levels is nigh useless end-game. For damage dealing I'd probably be better off with divine side for BB. But the same problem here: no haste.

I don't want to go as far as going for reconstructs. While nice, these would put me in the Divine Power clicky addict category and I'm looking for a build allowing me to have good beholder to-hit.

I think 12wiz/6/2 could maintain a high to-hit even without DP clickies. The thing is, can wiz levels be brought down any further?

Then again... caster level is just this, caster level, innit? So, my rgr/ftr/whatever levels would be useless haste wise and I'd end up with 30 second ones?

Argh my head hurts. Guess what I'm trying to do is just figure out the answer to this question: what is the best way to minimize on DP/haste clickies/consumables and still be a viable melee build?

[Consumer]

Can I ask whats wrong with greensteel haste clickies?

Or even playing with a good caster?

[gott_ist_tot]

Can I ask whats wrong with greensteel haste clickies?

Not at a level 6, but yeah. Mostly playing divine-melee so my GSs been rather of the conc-opp type to this time.

Or even playing with a good caster?

Please, don't go there. Just assume I for some reasons can't find one willing to play with me. May be my bad attidude or bad luck and just leave it at that.

Got better idea. Assume this is a solo toon. Fixes both - GS clickies not long enough for me (if long enough for ye assume I'm a worse player), and won;t play with arcane cuz, well, solo.

[Lifeblood]

I find myself using haste pots on my melee toons up to a point of spending 100-200k plat daily and I can't afford it.

Sounds like its time for an intervention

[gott_ist_tot]

Sounds like its time for an intervention

Yea man, may not look like it, but this post was a cry for help!

[Lithic]

Do you have a bard with 70+ haggle? Even 60ish haggle (can be hit without shroud or raid gear) will cut your expenses in half.

[sirdanile]

Roll a wind stance monk?

[Zowy]

Bard 8 / Ranger 12. Can give you WarChanter I and Tempest II. Along with most of the best buffs from both classes and Good songs. If you want even more Bard. The Axesinger build is a good start.

Warforged is the only race I would use to make an Arcane Knight. But they are not a build I would use, personally.

[gott_ist_tot]

Do you have a bard with 70+ haggle? Even 60ish haggle (can be hit without shroud or raid gear) will cut your expenses in half.

Yes, I've been thinking about it. But I'm just somehow not attracted to playing a bard, tried that, dumped at 13th, rerolled for lack of slots at the time. I'd be... very reluctant to play the bard for the sole purpose of haggle toon. Although it's a sensible answer and thank you for this.

Roll a wind stance monk?

Now that's another easy answer, but I'm trying to go with khopeshes, prolly should've mentioned that.

[oberon131313]

play a bard. Win.


EDIT: So, let me see if I can get what you are saying.
You want to play a melee, but also have haste.
You want to have divine spells.
You don't want to use clickies.
You don't want to be arcane.
You don't want to be a bard.
You don't want to group with anyone.

Buy a hireling....

[Reos]

This post smacks of potion addiction!
Why do you feel like you have to be hasted all of the time? Your best bet is to stack up a bunch of clickies and burn through them in a Haste-induced stupor.

[dranreb]

Phiarlan's pendant of time FTW?

Otherwise, make your own clickie or just hang tight with a wizzie.

[Consumer]

Had a friend get through a Bard by using the following split:

8 Bard / 6 Fighter / 6 Barb

Obviously not ultra awesome but it got the job done quickly and easily, might be worth a try.

[KKDragonLord]

try Rogue7/Wizard7/Ranger6

Thats my original "gimp" build
but there is a successful forum version out there that kicks a lot of ass

[Thrudh]

Haste potion costs 600 gp... you spend 1-2 million gold a day...

That's 1600-3200 haste potions a day...

At 30 seconds a pop.... that's 13-26 hours a day of being hasted...

(1) Questions about sleep and time warps come to mind..

(2) How are you possibly still level 6?

(3) I call Shenanigans

[Fenrisulven6]

Haste clickies. Even my cleric carries 12 charges. Enough to haste for most mobs, and they refresh at each shrine. Big investment at first, but well worth it.

Same with Expeditious Retreat clickies. 1st lvl items have 3c.

[Arcticwarrior]

Sounds like its time for an intervention

I call the dad!

[Stuttrboy]

I find myself using haste pots on my melee toons up to a point of spending 100-200k plat daily and I can't afford it. Is there a viable melee build into which I could squeeze 5 wizard levels for haste? Any reasoning which would let me remain sane, and with a toon not gimped? Or not gimped much?

I want to stop soon. Wall of fire, while awesome mid-levels is nigh useless end-game. For damage dealing I'd probably be better off with divine side for BB. But the same problem here: no haste.

I don't want to go as far as going for reconstructs. While nice, these would put me in the Divine Power clicky addict category and I'm looking for a build allowing me to have good beholder to-hit.

I think 12wiz/6/2 could maintain a high to-hit even without DP clickies. The thing is, can wiz levels be brought down any further?


Then again... caster level is just this, caster level, innit? So, my rgr/ftr/whatever levels would be useless haste wise and I'd end up with 30 second ones?

Argh my head hurts. Guess what I'm trying to do is just figure out the answer to this question: what is the best way to minimize on DP/haste clickies/consumables and still be a viable melee build?

Have you tried playing a warchanter? They get haste and melee pretty well. Or maybe just a hireling with haste.

[OldAquarian]

have you thought of not raid prepping for level 6 quests?

if you need to haste that much - you should probably try to find a class easier for you.

[spyyder976]

Not at a level 6, but yeah. Mostly playing divine-melee so my GSs been rather of the conc-opp type to this time.



Please, don't go there. Just assume I for some reasons can't find one willing to play with me. May be my bad attidude or bad luck and just leave it at that.

Got better idea. Assume this is a solo toon. Fixes both - GS clickies not long enough for me (if long enough for ye assume I'm a worse player), and won;t play with arcane cuz, well, solo.

Why on earth at level 6 MUST you have haste? It's not even needed...