Ranged Alacrity Items Stacking

[Khurse]

OK last night in a TOD group heard these stacked, tonight running through Desert heard they absolutely do not.
Do

Ranger Capstone
Black Dragonscale Armour
TOD AA Set

All stack?
I know they won't stack with haste, but do they (and I suppose the Abbot quiver as well) stack with each other?

[jazztromboneguy]

#1 and #3 do not stack as they are both compentency bonuses. 1 overrides 3 as the bigger bonus
Black Dragonhide (or the docent of quickening or the quiver of alacrity) stacks with 1 or 3 but not both

The armor, docent, and quiver I would assume would not stack with eacher other, as they are all from equipement. Generally equipment bonuses do not stack with each other.

Also, remember that Haste will stack with 1 or 3 but may not with 2 (or the equivilents), although due to my own testing, I think they do (probably is a bug)

[Shmuel]

#1 and #3 do not stack as they are both compentency bonuses. 1 overrides 3 as the bigger bonus
Black Dragonhide (or the docent of quickening or the quiver of alacrity) stacks with 1 or 3 but not both

The armor, docent, and quiver I would assume would not stack with eacher other, as they are all from equipement. Generally equipment bonuses do not stack with each other.

Also, remember that Haste will stack with 1 or 3 but may not with 2 (or the equivilents), although due to my own testing, I think they do (probably is a bug)

This is how i understand it to work as well. dont bother with tod set if you have capstone, use either the black dragonscale or the quiver or the docent.

[grodon9999]

Stupid question . ..

Since we know the Captstone isn't actually 25%, is the ToD set actually 10? I'm sure somebody's already tested this.

[Hailia]

Thank You. Level 20 AA (pure Ranger) here. I was under the assumtion that the ToD set and the Quiver would not stack because they are the same 10% bonus. I have the Ranger capstone. I was unaware that it did not stack with the ToD set. And from the way I understand it (calculus mathmatics) the 10% on the ToD set is not an actual 10% bonus. Thank You.

[AylinIsAwesome]

Stupid question . ..

Since we know the Captstone isn't actually 25%, is the ToD set actually 10? I'm sure somebody's already tested this.

It was reported a while ago. Not really a stupid question either.

Capstone is ~12.5%, with the ToD set being ~5%.

[AylinIsAwesome]

Thank You. Level 20 AA (pure Ranger) here. I was under the assumtion that the ToD set and the Quiver would not stack because they are the same 10% bonus. I have the Ranger capstone. I was unaware that it did not stack with the ToD set. And from the way I understand it (calculus mathmatics) the 10% on the ToD set is not an actual 10% bonus. Thank You.

Like bonuses do not normally stack unless they are certain types of bonuses (namely exceptional or dodge).

The capstone is a competence bonus, and the ToD is also listed as a competence bonus.

The Deepwood Sniper set is not a competence bonus, so it will stack with the capstone. However, because it is an enhancement bonus, it won't stack with Haste. Same with the Quiver.

[Hailia]

Check out the Alacrity tests being performed here at this thread: "AA speed test - Volunteers needed." It's just a few clicks back under "Class Discussions" / "Ranger"
They're confirming what you just said that the DwS set and the capstone stack. Unfortunately for me I cannot perform this test as of yet. I don't have the ToD AA set nor the Quiver. lol. Aye I like that picture of the Demon Queen, sweeeeet!

[grodon9999]

It was reported a while ago. Not really a stupid question either.

Capstone is ~12.5%, with the ToD set being ~5%.

The ToD set is 10% and stacks with haste. My 18/1/1 fire 80 shots in a manyshot without it, 88 with it equipped.

[Hailia]

The ToD set is 10% and stacks with haste. My 18/1/1 fire 80 shots in a manyshot without it, 88 with it equipped.

yes this would confirm that the ToD (AA) set is a competence bonus and that Haste is an enhancement bonus.

[Thorzian]

so what type of bonus is black dragonscale armor? im playing an 18/1/1 kensai AA and have the tod set. im wondering if sticking with the black armor is still the way to go or not.

[AylinIsAwesome]

so what type of bonus is black dragonscale armor? im playing an 18/1/1 kensai AA and have the tod set. im wondering if sticking with the black armor is still the way to go or not.

As answered at the top of this thread: enhancement as it won't stack with haste or quiver.

[Thorzian]

ahh, i see it now, though it was not called an enhancement at the time i should have known that haste was.. <-- 4 years and still a noob sometimes :P

[Hailia]

Capstone + Quiver + Deepwood Sniper Set: 87sec for 100 arrows = 1.149 APS

Hmmmm this would make me think that the DwS set is NOT an enhancement bonus. The Quiver and DwS set should not stack if they are truely both enhancement bonuses. Perhaps so long as these enhancement bonuses are different (Quiver - 10%) / (DwS -5%) they do indeed stack. Still not sure. But the proof is there above. Either that or the Quiver is like an Exceptional bonus. Hmmmmmmm.

[DustTheWind]

I felt this post was inconsequential and decided to delete it. Thanks.