I hate people who reply to threads with ...

[wax_on_wax_off]

I hate 2 types of responses that make up a good deal of the traffic on the forums.

1. I hate people that come onto a thread and make broad, generalist statements about the reality of the game as if they have God speaking in their ear:

"*Every* melee DPS *has* to have 18 strength and *has* to have power attack".

This simply isn't true, there are advantages and disadvantages to every choice in a build and some choices will have a greater cost than others. I would suggest that people learn to make suggestions, or observations. Nobody likes being told they are "wrong" and usually they aren't. Personally when I make a post I'm not looking to be told whether I'm right or wrong, I'm asking for some perspective on the benefits and costs of the choices I've made in a build. It is much better to help, suggest or advise rather than generalise or command.

2. I hate people that come onto a thread and say something like:

"Dude, this is a game, we all just want to get along and have fun! I'd say if you want to build your wizard/sorcerer multiclass then you should go right ahead and do whatever makes you happy man! Peace out!"

While the above is true it really isn't constructive, it doesn't increase anyones knowledge of the game, it just becomes a post that everyone skims over in search of something worthwhile to read. I will note however, that sometimes it can be good to combine a little bit of this with some solid advice as a gentle reminder to perhaps reassess their priorities.

[KRaNiX1337]

16 is min str on any melee based toon, and yes, Power attack is pretty much required. +5-22 damage it can give depending on class and race is way too good to pass over.

[dimster28]

16 is min str on any melee based toon, and yes, Power attack is pretty much required. +5-22 damage it can give depending on class and race is way too good to pass over.

lol this is funny thing i have read ever.

i have a lv 20 monk that didnt start with 16 str or higher and i dont have power attack at all, i rather combat expertise better than power attack.

so 16 min str and power attack is not pretty much required like u say.

[QuintonReece]

"*Every* melee DPS *has* to have 18 strength and *has* to have power attack".


"Dude, this is a game, we all just want to get along and have fun! I'd say if you want to build your wizard/sorcerer multiclass then you should go right ahead and do whatever makes you happy man! Peace out!"

[Gkar]

"*every* Melee Dps *has* To Have 18 Strength And *has* To Have Power Attack".


"dude, This Is A Game, We All Just Want To Get Along And Have Fun! I'd Say If You Want To Build Your Wizard/sorcerer Multiclass Then You Should Go Right Ahead And Do Whatever Makes You Happy Man! Peace Out!"

+1

[vVAnjilaVv]

Your right OP, if ur making a DEX build then u need an 18 DEX and Power Attack

[JollySwagMan]

Con is not a dump stat.

I recommend heavy fort.

That's all.

[Nevthial]

"*every* Melee Dps *has* To Have 18 Strength And *has* To Have Power Attack".


"dude, This Is A Game, We All Just Want To Get Along And Have Fun! I'd Say If You Want To Build Your Wizard/sorcerer Multiclass Then You Should Go Right Ahead And Do Whatever Makes You Happy Man! Peace Out!"

Lol

[Stormwine]

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2. I hate people that come onto a thread and say something like:

"Dude, this is a game, we all just want to get along and have fun! I'd say if you want to build your wizard/sorcerer multiclass then you should go right ahead and do whatever makes you happy man! Peace out!"

While the above is true it really isn't constructive, it doesn't increase anyone's knowledge of the game, it just becomes a post that everyone skims over in search of something worthwhile to read. I will note however, that sometimes it can be good to combine a little bit of this with some solid advice as a gentle reminder to perhaps reassess their priorities.

My feeling on this is if I was to try to get knowledge of the game from the forums I would honestly go nuts. Because every post out there has conflicting opinions. I get my knowledge of the game from playing the game. I experiment with builds. If I dont like it I delete it, if someone else doesn't like it they dont have to group with me. In general the people in the community are helpful. I will play how I play and I will have fun!

[Dragonhyde]

My feeling on this is if I was to try to get knowledge of the game from the forums I would honestly go nuts. Because every post out there has conflicting opinions. I get my knowledge of the game from playing the game. I experiment with builds. If I dont like it I delete it, if someone else doesn't like it they dont have to group with me. In general the people in the community are helpful. I will play how I play and I will have fun!

Very true! Forums are good for finding out specific bits of information.

[Razcar]

While there certainly are many ways to skin a cat, this game does have a limited set of variables. And it is played so much by so many people that the near "optimal path" from A to B is found sooner or later (usually sooner). And then you have a couple of ways of doing things that are more effective than others. It's just how it is.

So first you have to realise this. Then you have to set your ambition-level. Do you want to take these paths or not? Do you care to be as "effective" as possible? The answer "no" can be motivated by several fine reasons, such as lack of desire for grinding, not being interested in following paths well trodden (a.k.a. "easy-buttons"), or a desire for quirky and fun builds despite how effective they might be.

But there is no question that some ways are faster than others. This game is just not balanced in such a way that all choices grant the same benefits. And some of the available choices are just plain bad, in all situations. The question is if you should care or not, or rather, how much you should care.

[Adoraro]

Dude, this is a forum, we all just want to get along and have fun! I'd say if you want to post your troll/spam multipost then you should go right ahead and do whatever makes you happy man! Peace out!

[sirdanile]

EVERY thread MUST have some form of drama involved in it.

Chill out it's not that serious.

[Chai]

Welcome to the gray area, many people want max dps, and no one has it.

[Nezichiend]

Yes, if you want to do melee DPS, get Power Attack.

That is not a general, blanket statement. It is a fact. A true fact.

[Captain_Wizbang]

Yeah! I know what you mean!
I hate those people that teeter on both sides of a topic!

[werk]

I hear you OP, and agree.

1. I hate people that come onto a thread and make broad, generalist statements.

2. I hate people that come onto a thread and say something like: (metacomments).

I also dislike nanny behavior in general. Failure teaches the best lessons in video games.

[redraider]

I hate 2 types of responses that make up a good deal of the traffic on the forums.

1. I hate people that come onto a thread and make broad, generalist statements about the reality of the game as if they have God speaking in their ear:

"*Every* melee DPS *has* to have 18 strength and *has* to have power attack".

This simply isn't true, there are advantages and disadvantages to every choice in a build and some choices will have a greater cost than others. I would suggest that people learn to make suggestions, or observations. Nobody likes being told they are "wrong" and usually they aren't. Personally when I make a post I'm not looking to be told whether I'm right or wrong, I'm asking for some perspective on the benefits and costs of the choices I've made in a build. It is much better to help, suggest or advise rather than generalise or command.

2. I hate people that come onto a thread and say something like:

"Dude, this is a game, we all just want to get along and have fun! I'd say if you want to build your wizard/sorcerer multiclass then you should go right ahead and do whatever makes you happy man! Peace out!"

While the above is true it really isn't constructive, it doesn't increase anyones knowledge of the game, it just becomes a post that everyone skims over in search of something worthwhile to read. I will note however, that sometimes it can be good to combine a little bit of this with some solid advice as a gentle reminder to perhaps reassess their priorities.

Dude, this is a game, we all just want to get along and have fun! I'd say if you want to answer forum posts with inane support dialog, then you should go right ahead and do whatever makes you happy man! Peace out!

[sacredtheory]

Hi Welcome

what about people that respond to threads with that :-)

[Alexandryte]

This thread reminds me of one particular movie phrase:

"There are two things I hate: intolerance and the Dutch"


Moral of the story: complaining about others arguing is quite ironic.