What will it take to get a DEV response to Monk Issues?

[Drfirewater79]

I'm referring to the feedback on TWF. Last time I checked and granted I've pretty much given up on it we still didn't have an answer regarding MoB hit points on Lam vs intended HP on live post U5.

As far as I'm concerned there are no Wizard PrE's in game currently.

I actually dont mind the new pale master ... you can heal now with necrotic touch

and since there are more neg energy spells it looks better ... still the summons suck ... dont have augmented summoning cause i cannot afford ANOTHER feat ... but at least its not total **** ...

arcmage is the only one that is gonna be worth a lick if you ask me ... depending on how they do it and what it will cost ...

but really sorc pre's look way better in comparison based on TOD item alone ... amplified damage looks like it will be way better then the minor DC boost which dosent equate to much at all in difference ...

i can see what you mean ... still need to get a abbot staff ... once i do i will have a better idea of how bad it is in comparison.

[Drfirewater79]

I thought you squelched him? Guess not.

If you want a neutral view on this--I'd have to say you are the source of most of the drama in this thread. Your tone and responses could be much more constructive. Even if people are flaming or trolling you, a calm, reasoned response will allow you to achieve your goals much better than getting heated. If this isn't possible, I'd recommend stepping away for a day or two to let this deflate.

dude i tried best i could before blowing my top ..

but a couple people responding less jerkish ... have kept me looking back ... haven't gone to my hud yet to work the ignore ...

and sometimes ... though not always just saying your gonna ignore someone makes them leave ... i guess i actually have to do it in this case cause i will never hear the end of him until i do.

[Eladiun]

I actually dont mind the new pale master ... you can heal now with necrotic touch

and since there are more neg energy spells it looks better ... still the summons suck ... dont have augmented summoning cause i cannot afford ANOTHER feat ... but at least its not total **** ...

arcmage is the only one that is gonna be worth a lick if you ask me ... depending on how they do it and what it will cost ...

but really sorc pre's look way better in comparison based on TOD item alone ... amplified damage looks like it will be way better then the minor DC boost which dosent equate to much at all in difference ...

i can see what you mean ... still need to get a abbot staff ... once i do i will have a better idea of how bad it is in comparison.

My big concern is it's not going to work at higher levels like all other necromancy due to everything packing death ward. Which is my biggest issue with most of the recent nerf each change has an unintend cascade effect causing more issues and nerfs.

[Missing_Minds]

dude i tried best i could before blowing my top ..

Blowing your top over a poster in a forum... Is it really worth it? I'm not expect an answer mind you.

I mean for most of us, it isn't. Now if you are really, and I mean truly passionate about a particular topic, I can see it. But it never helps your position.

[Drfirewater79]

Actually there has been quite a bit of positive feedback about the update as well. Not everyone has jumped on the knee jerk negitive feedback bandwagon. When I typed my feedback posts, I made sure to include all of the positive things I liked about the next update as well. Many other players submitted positive feedback also.

The glass isnt always half empty.

This type of thing happens before every major change. People go crazy about the "nerfs" and start up threads about how their entire class, or many aspects of their class, are going to be completely useless. After the update is released, the negitive hype dies off rather quickly, and people resume playing the game.

And because you know that i have nothing but negative things to say you know that i have not said anything good about this update right????


I have talked on end about how i love the new content ... missions are fun and creative ... items are cool and have great epic potential ...

missions are even fun to put around in on hard and elite as a lvl 20 even though the missions are way below level ...

on epic they are fun and challenging without being crazy and over the top ...

i have stated i like guild renown system ... and though i think the amount of renown you get in slayer areas should be increased based on lvl range of the slayer area ... really nothing i can say negative about it ...

I dislike AP only being sold in store cause it goes directly against what Piaz said about items in store never being more powerful then what is available in game with plat.

I like Ninja Spy Pre .. a little underpowered but over all cant complain because dark monks already get 500 points of damage every 15 seconds ...

I have talked in great length with people about small changes that i feel should be made to twf but over all its not a big deal .. .however i have posted video showing the same mob same equip. shintao monk in lama took twice as long to kill the same red named mob from devils battlefield even with smite ability due to slower attacks in wind stance and lower chance of stun ...

I dont like the dice changes dont think any DnD player does ... but i offered my suggestion of 1d6(1-6) ... and when they said they would look into changing it in later update ... that was it .. i stopped posting about that ...

its all they have to do is say they are looking into it ... bam no more trouble ....

i have given lots of positive feedback ....

but i dont care if turbine responds to my positive feed back ... i care alot more about the feedback on topics that are causing uproar on forums ... things people are getting angry about ... for good reason and bad ...

it takes a long time for me to get to the point of aggressively trying to get information ...

it takes quite a long period of silence when people have been asking for a long time ...

i dont care about rep ... so while others are not willing to put there ass on the line ....

I do ... fighting the good fight ... for the people unwilling to fight hard and dirty ...

I might not get a response on this thread any more ... but maybe someone in the process of giving me infractions will read the OP see that its not just me that wants the info and pass it on ...

DEv team and mod team and production team can hate me all they want i dont really care about them ... i care about the game ... cause I really dont want to leave and play another game ... i just want this game to live up to its potential

other wise spring next year star wars ... fall this year DC universe and both look awesome at e3.

[Drfirewater79]

My big concern is it's not going to work at higher levels like all other necromancy due to everything packing death ward. Which is my biggest issue with most of the recent nerf each change has an unintend cascade effect causing more issues and nerfs.

yeah and the pre is totally useless in epic ... which you figure would be the sole reason for having a high dc on your instant death spells ...

and death ward negates all your damage ... even in gianthold TOR for instance ... anything with death ward is gonna suck ... but you still have your other spells ... but i agree they should make it that when your in form (lich or wraith) your spells bypass death ward .... that would solve the last issue with pale master ... it would make palemasters cool in epic and allow them to be uber in tor ....

[Drfirewater79]

Blowing your top over a poster in a forum... Is it really worth it? I'm not expect an answer mind you.

I mean for most of us, it isn't. Now if you are really, and I mean truly passionate about a particular topic, I can see it. But it never helps your position.

Yeah i notice the more i care about a topic the less answers i get and the more angry I get ...

then it doesn't take much after that .... I love this game .. and hated when everyone dropped it pre EU .... and seeing the same reaction to this update makes me want to get more active in offering suggestions ...

but like anything when your the only one talking (speaking us vs them) emotions run wild ...

just look at your dice thread ..... how many people you think got infractions on that thread.... I wont say I did or why I did if I did ... but i can bet there where people more aggressive and asinine then i was ....

[ezgoezit]

And because you know that i have nothing but negative things to say you know that i have not said anything good about this update right????

......

At first when we started testing the new monk content I saw eye to eye with you and I'm sure that I still agree with you on most points in principle, but I have to admit that I had to stop reading your posts after a point. Your posting on the subject has been nothing short of epic and your posts are rarely short and succinct.

Because of this, I can not help but wonder if you have caused other people besides me, maybe even devs to "tune out" of basically every "fix the monk" related thread that has been posted in recent weeks. Take this thread for example; as of my penning this reply, you have posted approximately 41 of the 126 replies. Sometimes you post 2 or even three posts in a row. You take the bait and bite the hook for every detractor which I think detracts from the readability of the thread and even credibility of your own ideas.

This is just my opinion and I could be wrong bearing in mind that we likely have the same end result goals, but I think your methods of attaining those goals are largely ineffective.

Thanks,

Ez

[Chai]

Blowing your top over a poster in a forum... Is it really worth it? I'm not expect an answer mind you.

I mean for most of us, it isn't. Now if you are really, and I mean truly passionate about a particular topic, I can see it. But it never helps your position.

/agree.

It also does not encourage responses when asking for one, now, or in the future due to case history.

If the devs are scheduled at Turbine anything like they are where I work, before a product release, its crunch time. Longer shifts are worked, people come in earlier and stay later, and there is no time to browse the forums and respond to any considerable percentage of feedback that is provided, good, bad, or indifferent. Every minute they have is used pounding out the new release, testing, retesting, re-re-re-re-retesting (you get the idea), and implementation. Coffee is ordered and purchased by the crate.