help with first rogue1/ranger19 empest build

[hockeyrama]

I like to be able to do traps if possible on most buids so I not need to wait for a rogue in groups and can do them. I started this character on a new server and he is at 1/1. So the first two levels are already set the way in the builder. I need advice on which feats to take at what level and which favored enemies. Also could use some advice on enhancements if you see anything that can be fixed.

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Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(1 Rogue \ 19 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 290
Spell Points: 336 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 17
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             13                    20
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         14                    14
Wisdom               13                    14
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                     8
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         2                    26
Diplomacy            -1                    -1
Disable Device        6                    25
Haggle                3                     3
Heal                  1                     2
Hide                  6                    24
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  4                     9
Listen                5                     7
Move Silently         6                    24
Open Lock             6                     8
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     2
Search                6                    25
Spot                  5                    25
Swim                  1                     5
Tumble                3                     5
Use Magic Device      3                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II


Level 5 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Human
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II


Level 14 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 16 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III


Level 17 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild III


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III


Level 19 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III


Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion IV

[beatles42o]

i have played a lot of builds like this. and i want a build like that my self.

TWF khopesh from what i hear is great. i choose scimitar for elfs though. human khopesh.

if you want rogue it would be good too choose two levels for evasion. but instead of 19 in ranger. 18/1/1 ranger/rogue/fighter. taking a level in fighter instead of ranger(im pretty sure) will give you an extra feat improved critical or TWF defense. or something. not sure.

but your build looks good. i would just suggest 18/2 ranger rogue. if your taking rogue. if not. 18/2 rogue/fighter for getting woop ass status with khopesh

[boldarblood]

i have played a lot of builds like this. and i want a build like that my self.

TWF khopesh from what i hear is great. i choose scimitar for elfs though. human khopesh.

if you want rogue it would be good too choose two levels for evasion. but instead of 19 in ranger. 18/1/1 ranger/rogue/fighter. taking a level in fighter instead of ranger(im pretty sure) will give you an extra feat improved critical or TWF defense. or something. not sure.

but your build looks good. i would just suggest 18/2 ranger rogue. if your taking rogue. if not. 18/2 rogue/fighter for getting woop ass status with khopesh

9 levels of ranger gives evasion.

[beatles42o]

i forgot about that. then 18/1/1 RNG/ROG/FTR sounds decent. any extra crit with khopesh is worth it in my eyes

[hockeyrama]

ok, so first:
if I went 18/1/1 then when would I take the fighter level?
Alos, since a bastard sword has more damage base then would it not be better to take it instead of knopesh. I know the improve crit doubles the range and witht the 1 fighter level I can add the figher critical accuracy. Just wondering if anyone has done the numbers for a character that can increase the crit range only by a bit as oppossed to other builds which may make it bigger.

[hockeyrama]

also if I get an extra feat given what I have taken so far what would be the recommended one?

[FluffyCalico]

Would be better to go 18/1/1 where the last one is not fighter but monk as then you not only get the extra feat like you would from fighter but also +2 all saves and +wisdom modifier to ac.

[wisdomstorment]

Take a look at Tihocan's revisioned Tempest line at http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=16 for some ideas on what you're looking for. I'm playing something similar and used that as my starting point. Good luck with the build.

[hockeyrama]

Would be better to go 18/1/1 where the last one is not fighter but monk as then you not only get the extra feat like you would from fighter but also +2 all saves and +wisdom modifier to ac.

You gee the +1 wis as an enhancement for level 2 monk so I could not take it. I could get an extra dex if I went with 2 rogue. Also, the feats for the monk level would have to be a monk class feat and not sure what one would be good. Maybe and exra toughness. Alos, with 19 levels ranger better caster then 18 levels.

With the fighter feat I could take slashing wepon focus.

[FluffyCalico]

You gee the +1 wis as an enhancement for level 2 monk so I could not take it.
With the fighter feat I could take slashing wepon focus.

1) Power attack and Combat expertise are monk feats please tell me you were planning on taking one of those
2) You completely misunderstood about wisdom. If you start with say a 12 wisdom and eat a +2 tome=14 min for ranger level 4 spells and then craft a shroud item estentisal stalemate style for the free +6 wisdom you would have 20 wisdom. With that 1 monk level that translates into +5 AC. So you get better saves, a feat you were going to take anyway and +5 AC.
And do you really think there is much of a difference between spells that last 18 mim and ones that last 19 min?

[hockeyrama]

I took the power attack early on level one which I said was already started. I did not add CE and it is a viable option. I was thinking that adding something like Improved crit bludgeon (for the undead or those immune to the khopeshes as slashing weps) might be good or adding wep focs slashing if I grabbed the fighter. I would grab CE if I grab the monk. Problem with Ce on this build is my + to hit is not as high as other builds. I am a 28pt build and don't have the highest strength so may not have the ability to sacrifice +hit to get +5 Ac. Also, even if I could PA would be used more as the extra damage (when i hit) would make sense more then the extra AC end game. I also not going to probably have the best AC and an extra 5 Ac may help but the extra damage for sure will help so i lean towards PA then CE on this build.

Now about the wisdom from monk and the extra to AC would only help if I was centered and with dual Khopeshes I would not be centered so would not get the wis bonus.

I could switch to other weps but that would defeat the purpose of the build to swing some big khopeshes around and do traps as required.

I also think you missed the point about I already started him so changing the starting stats in not an option. He is spread a bit thin but then I don't need alot of tomes to get the stuff I want and since he first on the server he not going to get alot of tomes till much later.

[FluffyCalico]

Now about the wisdom from monk and the extra to AC would only help if I was centered and with dual Khopeshes I would not be centered so would not get the wis bonus.

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Centered is not linked to the +5 ac from wisdom 20. You get the +AC while using kopeshes.

Also you could switch out PA for something else and then take it as your monk free feat.
You can check the list of monk feats here http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Class:Monk