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    Default Evasive Warchanter 18 bard/2rog

    The aim of this 28pt build is to have
    • a bard
    • who can handle traps
    • who can buff himself and the party via spells and songs
    • who can heal
    • who can melee if the other roles aren't needed,

    with priorities in that particular order. CC and damage spells are not on this list, although I'll try to use Fascinate.

    I decided to go 18 bard for two reasons: First, I don't want to delay my spell and song advancement too much by taking (more) early levels of Rogue or Fighter. Second, I want this build to be able to get Warchanter III, when it's there, at some time.

    I am aware that not having a Fighter Splash forces me to use Master's Touch in order to wield a nice Falchion properly. Update: With Update 7, I'm going to get a proficiency in Falchions. Yay.

    Without further ado, here's an updated version of my build:

    feats:
    1 Insightful Reflexes, Weapon Focus
    3 Extend
    6 PA
    9 Toughness
    12 Empower Healing*
    15 Improved Crit: Slashing
    18 Quicken.

    *Currently Switched for Maximize for more healing Oomph.

    I've rearranged the spell selection as well in order to get buffs earlier than healing spells (some, at least)
    2 CLW
    3 Master's Touch
    4 Focusing Chant
    5 Heroism, CMW
    6 Detect Secret Doors, Blur
    8 CSW, Haste, Displacement
    10 Fox
    12 Good Hope (drop Hero), FoM, CCW (drop CLW)
    13 Neutralize Poison
    15 Break Enchantment, Greater Hero, MCLW
    16 Shadow Walk
    18 Remove Fear, Mass Suggestion, MCMW, Otto's Irresistable Dance
    19 Invisibility, Mass Fox's
    20 Remove Curse

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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    Twiddler Drehstrom
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (2 Rogue \ 18 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 202
    Spell Points: 576 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    21
    Dexterity             8                     8
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence         14                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    22
    Bluff                 6                     7
    Concentration         2                     2
    Diplomacy             6                     7
    Disable Device        6                    26
    Haggle                6                    26
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                 -1                    -1
    Intimidate            6                     7
    Jump                  6                    10
    Listen               -1                    -1
    Move Silently        -1                    -1
    Open Lock             3                     3
    Perform               n/a                  26
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                6                    26
    Spot                  3                    15
    Swim                  3                     5
    Tumble                0                     0
    Use Magic Device      6                    26
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Bluff (+4)
    Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Intimidate (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+3)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+5)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+2)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Spell (1): Master's Touch
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (1): Focusing Chant
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (2): Heroism
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
    Spell (2): Rage
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (3): Haste
    Spell (2): Blur
    Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Rogue Search I
    Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
    Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+7)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+2)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    Spell (4): Dimension Door
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
    Spell (5): Greater Heroism
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (5): Shadow Walk
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
    Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (6): Heroes Feast
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Glitterdust
    Spell (6): Otto's Irresistable Dance
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (3): Remove Curse


    ------
    That's the outdated build, just for reference.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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    Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
    (2 Rogue \ 18 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 222
    Spell Points: 569 
    BAB: 14\14\19\24
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 13
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    21
    Dexterity             8                     8
    Constitution         14                    14
    Intelligence         14                    14
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    14
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               3                    22
    Bluff                 2                     2
    Concentration         2                     2
    Diplomacy             2                     2
    Disable Device        6                    26
    Haggle                6                    25
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  3                     3
    Intimidate            2                     2
    Jump                  3                     6
    Listen                3                     3
    Move Silently         3                     3
    Open Lock             3                     3
    Perform               n/a                  25
    Repair                2                     2
    Search                6                    26
    Spot                  3                    15
    Swim                  3                     5
    Tumble                3                     3
    Use Magic Device      6                    25
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Hide (+4)
    Skill: Listen (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Rogue Search I
    
    
    Level 2 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 3 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1.5)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    Spell (1): Master's Touch
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (1): Focusing Chant
    
    
    Level 5 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (2): Heroism
    
    
    Level 6 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
    Spell (2): Blur
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I & Prereqs
    
    
    
    Level 8 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Fox's Cunning
    Spell (3): Haste
    Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+6)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+2)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (3): Good Hope
    
    
    Level 11 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Spell (3): Displacement
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
    
    
    Level 13 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Spell (4): Break Enchantment
    Spell (5): Greater Heroism
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
    
    
    Level 16 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (5): Shadow Walk
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (1): Remove Fear
    Spell (5): Mass Suggestion
    Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (6): Otto's Irresistable Dance
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (2): Invisibility
    Spell (6): Mass Fox's Cunning
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Balance (+1)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Perform (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+0.5)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Spell (3): Remove Curse
    Capped Skills are Balance, Haggle, Perform, UMD, DD, Search. At level 20, Spot is at 16 ranks.

    Are there any comments or remarks regarding this guy?

    Edit: Having played this build for a bit, I must admit that I find his SP pool lacking, his personal DPS mediocre, and most imprortantly, I don't see an essential benefit of actually going 18/2 over 16/2/2. I don't recommend this build, as of Update 12.
    Last edited by karl_k0ch; 02-25-2012 at 07:00 AM.

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