So Devs, Are We Done Talking?

[osirisisis]

I'd disagree... often our Feedback is taken with a large grain of salt, but...

Ya know that Bastard Sword and Dwarven War Axe change...

Yeah that's totally me

I've only been talking about exactly that for 2 years

Sometimes it just takes a while

Aesop

I been screaming for 2 years to get w/p rapiers un nerfed and a real green steel nerf.....So does that mean due

[timidobserver]

Well you'd think they would be listening. As things stand some big games are coming down the line between now and next summer. Would be sad for them if half the players jump ship.

[Boromirs]

DON'T BLAME THE DEVS

Im about 99% certain most of these changes are coming from higher up the corporate structure ( you know the people who never even rolled a character on DDO). If you blame the developers for something that is a business decision it will only hurt the devs (possibly getting terminated) and thus the game. The way american corporations are structured this is just how it is, the guys actually doing the work/understand the game get's the shaft for any failures regardless of where these failures are being generated.

I would like to know the command structure of Turbine, and they should exactly state who is coming up with these ideas and why

[Josh]

Yeap, I still think its epic mountains out of molehills. Why else would the same people who threaten to quit every time a major change comes around still be playing?

You keep on saying this over and over again. Who exactly do you know that has threatened to quit and has not? Do you have proof that people that say they are quitting are, in fact not?

[ClashM]

DON'T BLAME THE DEVS

Im about 99% certain most of these changes are coming from higher up the corporate structure ( you know the people who never even rolled a character on DDO). If you blame the developers for something that is a business decision it will only hurt the devs (possibly getting terminated) and thus the game. The way american corporations are structured this is just how it is, the guys actually doing the work/understand the game get's the shaft for any failures regardless of where these failures are being generated.

I would like to know the command structure of Turbine, and they should exactly state who is coming up with these ideas and why

Could be right, but then whoever is ordering these changes better get off their butts (Wanted to use an expletive but meh...) and listen to the people who really pay their wages, the players. These combat changes have a lot of people very upset and have broken more than a few characters. When you break someone's hard earned loot or well developed build they don't take it so well... wouldn't doubt seeing some people leave over some of this. Especially these days when new MMOs are always coming out and old ones are seeking to revamp their systems to appeal to the players and stay competitive. This update is very promising, only thing to stop us from squealing like little girls over the addition of guild housing and trap making is the nerfs...

[Drfirewater79]

You keep on saying this over and over again. Who exactly do you know that has threatened to quit and has not? Do you have proof that people that say they are quitting are, in fact not?

I have said i am gonna quit this game 3 times ...

left only 1 time ..

so he must be refering to me ... other then me i dont know anyone else who has threatened to leave more then once and not done it ...

that being said this time i didnt threaten i just cancel my sub and will continue to play hoping turbine does something to make me want to re sub in september when my current one is done ... 3 months to grab my interest again before i save up for new and better mmos ... E3 is this week ... cant wait to see what is coming out this year .. star wars old republic .... DC Universe ... Sonys new spy mmo prodject ... all to be announced at this years E3 with release dates attached to them spanning from nov-early spring next year.

time for threats is done ... action speaks louder then words.

take action people ...

[Ironforge_Clan]

seriously? You are either a liar or an idiot.

You sir! lack style.

Pete got it right. Dendrix if you believe that our voices are going to be not only heard but listened to then you are very foolish. The history of this game has taught all us a great and inevidible truth...the players are rarely ever listened to!

[smatt]

honestly I don't believe for a second that the Dev's had an interest in what the customer base had to say about the changes to combat that are coming.
I do believe that we were shown the changes in an attempt to lessen the fallout rate once these changes go live.

I am, Rameses!

I disagree they did change the changes after a bit of input and l;ikely are adjusting them even more now. Yes, there WILL be major changes to TWF, various speed boosts etc. No doubt.. But how they're doing it exactly is the unknown... The problem with msot of the complainers is that they don't want any changes... Or onyl the changes that would benefit them.. They dont' ahve to worry about the entire game, and how EVERYTHING interacts and works, the entire playerbase, time contraints, budgets, reality of a business... You know all those things....

You people have to realise that it actually takes time to code this stuff... Then recode it and change it.. They've only put the 2nd build onto Lama... Another build will likely hit this week sometime. But I suppose the instant gratification 24 hour cable/internet "I have a right and need to know everything instantly" crowd will go on and on when they aren't given minute by minute updates.

I'd say that maybe the Devs are WORKING as oppossed to wasting time while at work surfing...

[smatt]

Don't Blame The Devs

Im About 99% Certain Most Of These Changes Are Coming From Higher Up The Corporate Structure ( You Know The People Who Never Even Rolled A Character On Ddo). If You Blame The Developers For Something That Is A Business Decision It Will Only Hurt The Devs (possibly Getting Terminated) And Thus The Game. The Way American Corporations Are Structured This Is Just How It Is, The Guys Actually Doing The Work/understand The Game Get's The Shaft For Any Failures Regardless Of Where These Failures Are Being Generated.

I Would Like To Know The Command Structure Of Turbine, And They Should Exactly State who Is Coming Up With These Ideas And Why

Lol

[Strakeln]

We had a huge thread on combat changes, we've saw all types crawl out the woodwork to talk about U5, bugs reported, ideas given and now I see Turbine touting U5 to Massively. So...is that it? U5's a goer?

I know it's too late to change the 1-6 thing, apparently, so can we safely say the next mod is coming on target?

A little feedback on our feedback would be much appreciated by several hundred forum tro...em, users.

/snort

It was a go before they received Mournlands feedback.

[esoitl]

People give money to drug lords all the time even though they know they are liars and cheats because they need their fix of their chosen addiction

Being a drug dealer does not imply that they are liars and cheats...

[Tap4black]

I cannot believe you guys give money to people who you think are liars and cheats.

Some of us stopped giving our money to the liars and cheats yet still like to log into the game. We just love it when we are able to cause even the slightest hint of server performance degredation so that all the fanbois can get their little panties up in a bunch

[NXPlasmid]

/snort

It was a go before they received Mournlands feedback.

/snort^2

U5 ready for mornlands, check!
U5 didn't bring down mournlands, check!
U5 ready for lamania, check!
U5 didn't bring down Lamania, check!
Discuss player response.
U5 ready for launch, check!

[ThatLukeGuy]

Haters gonna gate!

[Turial]

I'd disagree... often our Feedback is taken with a large grain of salt, but...

Ya know that Bastard Sword and Dwarven War Axe change...

Yeah that's totally me

I've only been talking about exactly that for 2 years

Sometimes it just takes a while

Aesop

You had to dig a pretty deep hole for them to pay attention on that one.

This means the hole dug for some ranged combat adjustments is about the size of Texas in depth.

[Aesop]

You had to dig a pretty deep hole for them to pay attention on that one.

This means the hole dug for some ranged combat adjustments is about the size of Texas in depth.

yeah and about as deep the Grand Canyon

and is only slightly bigger than the one I've been digging for S&B

[FluffyCalico]

and is only slightly bigger than the one I've been digging for S&B

Sadly they are NOT fixing it and instead are breaking it in a new way. Congrats it may be more playable now but its also more broken than ever.