So Devs, Are We Done Talking?

[Beherit_Baphomar]

We had a huge thread on combat changes, we've saw all types crawl out the woodwork to talk about U5, bugs reported, ideas given and now I see Turbine touting U5 to Massively. So...is that it? U5's a goer?

I know it's too late to change the 1-6 thing, apparently, so can we safely say the next mod is coming on target?

A little feedback on our feedback would be much appreciated by several hundred forum tro...em, users.

[Montoya]

would be nice to know if they are considering changes

[Rameses]

honestly I don't believe for a second that the Dev's had an interest in what the customer base had to say about the changes to combat that are coming.
I do believe that we were shown the changes in an attempt to lessen the fallout rate once these changes go live.

I am, Rameses!

[EazyWeazy]

honestly I don't believe for a second that the Dev's had an interest in what the customer base had to say about the changes to combat that are coming.
I do believe that we were shown the changes in an attempt to lessen the fallout rate once these changes go live.

I am, Rameses!

Yep.

[Chai]

I still find it mildly funny that people still believe the devs just run the show, all willy nilly style, with no regard for anyone else that plays the game or their management team who is likely making alot of the decisions. I have yet to see this type of company command structure, and I have seen alot of them.

[Thrudh]

honestly I don't believe for a second that the Dev's had an interest in what the customer base had to say about the changes to combat that are coming.
I do believe that we were shown the changes in an attempt to lessen the fallout rate once these changes go live.

I am, Rameses!

They already made changes due to our feedback...

I cannot believe you guys give money to people who you think are liars and cheats.

[Gkar]

I cannot believe you guys give money to people who you think are liars and cheats.

People give money to drug lords all the time even though they know they are liars and cheats because they need their fix of their chosen addiction

[Thrudh]

People give money to drug lords all the time even though they know they are liars and cheats because they need their fix of their chosen addiction

I feel sorry for addicts

[esoitl]

People give money to drug lords all the time even though they know they are liars and cheats because they need their fix of their chosen addiction

Being a drug dealer does not imply that they are liars and cheats...

[Chai]

They already made changes due to our feedback...

I cannot believe you guys give money to people who you think are liars and cheats.

Yeap, I still think its epic mountains out of molehills. Why else would the same people who threaten to quit every time a major change comes around still be playing?

[Josh]

Yeap, I still think its epic mountains out of molehills. Why else would the same people who threaten to quit every time a major change comes around still be playing?

You keep on saying this over and over again. Who exactly do you know that has threatened to quit and has not? Do you have proof that people that say they are quitting are, in fact not?

[Drfirewater79]

You keep on saying this over and over again. Who exactly do you know that has threatened to quit and has not? Do you have proof that people that say they are quitting are, in fact not?

I have said i am gonna quit this game 3 times ...

left only 1 time ..

so he must be refering to me ... other then me i dont know anyone else who has threatened to leave more then once and not done it ...

that being said this time i didnt threaten i just cancel my sub and will continue to play hoping turbine does something to make me want to re sub in september when my current one is done ... 3 months to grab my interest again before i save up for new and better mmos ... E3 is this week ... cant wait to see what is coming out this year .. star wars old republic .... DC Universe ... Sonys new spy mmo prodject ... all to be announced at this years E3 with release dates attached to them spanning from nov-early spring next year.

time for threats is done ... action speaks louder then words.

take action people ...

[Ironforge_Clan]

seriously? You are either a liar or an idiot.

You sir! lack style.

Pete got it right. Dendrix if you believe that our voices are going to be not only heard but listened to then you are very foolish. The history of this game has taught all us a great and inevidible truth...the players are rarely ever listened to!

[grodon9999]

They already made changes due to our feedback...

I cannot believe you guys give money to people who you think are liars and cheats.

What can I say? its a great game, it's not like a competing D&D MMO is out (yet . . .).

It would be nice if our feedback has some effect on what actually gets implemented, but I don't expect that to happen.

[eulogy098]

There was never actually a discussion, we were told what they are going to do and aloud to comment on it. That is all, we weren't actually giving feedback that was going to be responded to.

No matter what we do or say, they are going to make the changes, this was decided before any of the information was made public.

Turbine does not care that the dramatic changes to game play have had no real beneficial effect, they are stubborn and will refuse to accept that they are mistaken.

Update5 is coming exactly as described and there's nothing that any of the players can do about it.

[Aesop]

What can I say? its a great game, it's not like a competing D&D MMO is out (yet . . .).

It would be nice if our feedback has some effect on what actually gets implemented, but I don't expect that to happen.

I'd disagree... often our Feedback is taken with a large grain of salt, but...

Ya know that Bastard Sword and Dwarven War Axe change...

Yeah that's totally me

I've only been talking about exactly that for 2 years

Sometimes it just takes a while

Aesop

[FluffyCalico]

I'd disagree... often our Feedback is taken with a large grain of salt, but...

Ya know that Bastard Sword and Dwarven War Axe change...

Yeah that's totally me

I've only been talking about exactly that for 2 years

Sometimes it just takes a while

Aesop

Well now we know who to blame for there being 3 stupidly broken weapons instead of 1 thanks for getting them to break 2 more.

[osirisisis]

I'd disagree... often our Feedback is taken with a large grain of salt, but...

Ya know that Bastard Sword and Dwarven War Axe change...

Yeah that's totally me

I've only been talking about exactly that for 2 years

Sometimes it just takes a while

Aesop

I been screaming for 2 years to get w/p rapiers un nerfed and a real green steel nerf.....So does that mean due

[Turial]

I'd disagree... often our Feedback is taken with a large grain of salt, but...

Ya know that Bastard Sword and Dwarven War Axe change...

Yeah that's totally me

I've only been talking about exactly that for 2 years

Sometimes it just takes a while

Aesop

You had to dig a pretty deep hole for them to pay attention on that one.

This means the hole dug for some ranged combat adjustments is about the size of Texas in depth.

[Alintalkin]

They already made changes due to our feedback...

I cannot believe you guys give money to people who you think are liars and cheats.

*Tinfoil hat on as well as sarcasm*
The combat changes were probably intentionally posted terribly at the beginning to make us think the listen to use when it was changed.
*ridiculous tinfoil hat off as well as sarcasm*

On a serious note, though I am fine with the attempt to listen to use I am not even mad about TWF and THF changes anymore, I just want the bugs to be fixed and DDoor be able to stay when the caster goes through it so it isn't used for griefing. Oh and that Tear not be nerfed into easiness (though admittedly on difficulties greater then normal I saved a group once or twice on my char, as in they were all dead and a brought their soul stones to shrine which was fun as it was an educational experience for parties). I also want the scrag trolls to die again only through fire and acid, and the option to still use the dice system in UI, after all they have both descriptions for the skills, one on Lama and other on live servers.

Really it is the minor things that sting me.