Void lore effect clarification request

[Kralgnax]

Does void lore apply (usefully) only to our inflict [x] wounds line and harm spell?

Those are the only ones that I know are negative energy, other than enervation and the insta-kills, which don't seem so crittable - well, I suppose Slay Living / Destruction might crit on the damage portion on the event of a succesfull save.

Anyway, am I missing something or is Void lore not so useful for divines?

[Kralgnax]

No thoughts?

[rendet]

You got it right. It only affects harm and inflict. Destruction always does 49 on a sucessful save.

[Rusty_Can]

Does void lore apply (usefully) only to our inflict [x] wounds line and harm spell?

Afaik, yes.

Anyway, am I missing something or is Void lore not so useful for divines?

Well, I seldom use the "mass inflict wound" spells, since mobs have gazillions of hp and those spells wouldn't cut it; nevertheless, Harm can prove useful:

- it affects raid bosses: when the cap was lower (14 and 16), clerics used to nuke the demon queen with it;
- divine negative energy spells are damage spells but, unlike others, allow will saves, instead of reflex or fortitude;
- Harm is a lvl 6 spell, thus bypasses Mantle of Invulnerability;
- iirc, its damage output is improved by the same enhancements that improve healing spells, thus you don't need to spend APs on it (unlike for alignment-based spells).

[rendet]

Yep, harm crits hard on raid bosses like the demon queen. You will see the same crits that you see with you heal spell on non-healing amped targets. mine is in the 400's on the demon queen. Not bad if you have 3 healers and have sp to burn.

[Kralgnax]

Thanks for the help!

[rest]

Yep, harm crits hard on raid bosses like abbot and the demon queen. You will see the same crits that you see with you heal spell on non-healing amped targets. mine is close to 900 on crit for the abbot and the demon queen I've only noticed in the mid 400's on crit. Not bad if you have 3 healers and have sp to burn.

Funny, I alway use HEAL on the abbot since he is undead.

[phalaeo]

Yep, harm crits hard on raid bosses like abbot

Um...

Er...

If Heal hurts undead-
And Harm is used to "heal" friendly undead and Pale Masters....

Either the Abbot is an undead Pale Master in *not* in Lich form, or...
*head asplodes*

You just divided the Abbot by zero!

[rendet]

I don't know why I brain farted on that one. Ya I heal the abbot as well which is why it crits so hard... Corrected the above post. That's like 3 dumb mistakes in 2 weeks... I'm just gonna stop posting advice in the forums all together lol.