On sale now for about dime.

[Malidiction]

I spent seven months of dedicated farming to make my Epic Ring of Spell Storing. Now I read this in the the Lamannia Release Notes: “Ring of Spell Storing: SP heal reduced to ""Greater Mnemonic"" (55 - 300 sp).” I was at first baffled by the proposed change.

Was seven months of farming undeserving of this “Epic” item? I think not.

Are the devs contemplating making this epic item easier to obtain thus opening the potential to unbalance spell casters on a general scale. Again, I think not. (I'll touch on the subject of game balance in a minute.)

Is the Epic Ring of Spell Storing unbalanced relative to other sp healing items? No, the Mysterious Bauble is a comparatively easy to obtain level 18 item that offers 1/3 the spell point healing of the epic ring. The enormous effort and rarity of the epic ring justifies the extra charges of Major Mnemonic Aid.

If the ring is very difficult to obtain, poses no unbalancing risk to the future for casters and balances well against other sp healing items, why does Turbine want to nerf it? In a word, GREED. The difference between the current version of the Epic Spell Storing Ring (1057 sp on average) and the nerfed ring (532 sp on average) is the equivalent to the sp gained (502 sp on average) from one Concentrated Elixir of Major Mnemonic Enhancement (a.k.a. DDO store bought “Best SP Potion”). If you are thrifty when you buy your Turbine points and SP potions, that equates to TEN CENTS! Turbine is nerfing the Epic Spell Storing Ring to make an occasional extra dime!

If the difference from the current ring to the nerfed ring (525 sp on average) is unbalancing, why is Turbine offering an unlimited supply of potions for the equivalent of about dime each (when purchased on sale and in bulk)?

I don't know which thought is more offensive. The lack of value Turbine is placing on their customer's efforts to reach a goal by spending countless hours of their personal entertainment time and the lack of appreciation for the customer's subscription dollars during those months of grinding. Or, by slapping us in the face and nerfing our hard won prize while simultaneously offering the equivalent for about a DIME on the DDO store.

I am one of the lucky ones to own the Epic Spell Storing Ring. I imagine those who have worked as hard and have less to show would be totally demoralized by this announcement.

Turbine doesn't offer VIP accounts anymore. They have taken the “Very Important” away from “People” and instead they now have “Very Important Wallet” (i.e. subscriber) accounts which they still refer to as “VIP”.

[Quikster]

im pretty sure the nerf was nerfed. So your SS ring should work the same in the next update. At least thats what was announced a while ago and i havent seen anything about it since.

[Auran82]

I spent seven months of dedicated farming to make my Epic Ring of Spell Storing. Now I read this in the the Lamannia Release Notes: “Ring of Spell Storing: SP heal reduced to ""Greater Mnemonic"" (55 - 300 sp).” I was at first baffled by the proposed change.

Was seven months of farming undeserving of this “Epic” item? I think not.

Are the devs contemplating making this epic item easier to obtain thus opening the potential to unbalance spell casters on a general scale. Again, I think not. (I'll touch on the subject of game balance in a minute.)

Is the Epic Ring of Spell Storing unbalanced relative to other sp healing items? No, the Mysterious Bauble is a comparatively easy to obtain level 18 item that offers 1/3 the spell point healing of the epic ring. The enormous effort and rarity of the epic ring justifies the extra charges of Major Mnemonic Aid.

If the ring is very difficult to obtain, poses no unbalancing risk to the future for casters and balances well against other sp healing items, why does Turbine want to nerf it? In a word, GREED. The difference between the current version of the Epic Spell Storing Ring (1057 sp on average) and the nerfed ring (532 sp on average) is the equivalent to the sp gained (502 sp on average) from one Concentrated Elixir of Major Mnemonic Enhancement (a.k.a. DDO store bought “Best SP Potion”). If you are thrifty when you buy your Turbine points and SP potions, that equates to TEN CENTS! Turbine is nerfing the Epic Spell Storing Ring to make an occasional extra dime!

If the difference from the current ring to the nerfed ring (525 sp on average) is unbalancing, why is Turbine offering an unlimited supply of potions for the equivalent of about dime each (when purchased on sale and in bulk)?

I don't know which thought is more offensive. The lack of value Turbine is placing on their customer's efforts to reach a goal by spending countless hours of their personal entertainment time and the lack of appreciation for the customer's subscription dollars during those months of grinding. Or, by slapping us in the face and nerfing our hard won prize while simultaneously offering the equivalent for about a DIME on the DDO store.

I am one of the lucky ones to own the Epic Spell Storing Ring. I imagine those who have worked as hard and have less to show would be totally demoralized by this announcement.

Turbine doesn't offer VIP accounts anymore. They have taken the “Very Important” away from “People” and instead they now have “Very Important Wallet” (i.e. subscriber) accounts which they still refer to as “VIP”.

TLDR

PS: They changed their mind.

[Malidiction]

im pretty sure the nerf was nerfed. So your SS ring should work the same in the next update. At least thats what was announced a while ago and i havent seen anything about it since.

I truely hope you are correct. However, from the Notes:

LAMANNIA ONLY - The Epic Ring of Spell Storing, Mysterious Bauble, and Bunny Hat have been updated to their pre-Update 5 forms.

This seems to indicate the ring on Lamannia only was reverted and the plan to nerf the ring for Update 5 is intact.

[LordPiglet]

I truely hope you are correct. However, from the Notes:



This seems to indicate the ring on Lamannia only was reverted and the plan to nerf the ring for Update 5 is intact.

It was reverted back because the change only took place on Lamannia, and was never released on live.

There's a post from one of the Dev's about the decision to not change either one.

In a meeting right now, but I wanted to pop in here and share some news.

We're reverting the changes to these two items. Your Mysterious Bauble and Epic Spell Storing Ring will function just as they always have!

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=45

[Sirea]

I'm pretty sure Tarrant said they weren't nerfing it. As for if he meant only on Lamannia, or on the live servers too, I can't say. The wording of the release notes is rather confusing.

[toastjeff]

This seems to indicate the ring on Lamannia only was reverted and the plan to nerf the ring for Update 5 is intact.

That's not what "Lamania only" means. If you are only on the live servers, no change will be seen, the ring the day before U5 and the day after U5 will be exactly the same, so there's no need for a release note. If you're on Lamania, you'll have seen your ring get nerfed and then get un-nerfed. So, the only place a change is made is on Lamania, therefore "Lamania only".

[Irinis]

Reversion of something on Lammania means that the changes will not go through to Live as they have been Reverted on Lammania. Just projectspeak.

[samthedagger]

Wait, I'm confused. Is it making the game harder what you vets want or is it easier? Please clarify.

[Sirea]

Wait, I'm confused. Is it making the game harder what you vets want or is it easier? Please clarify.

If you work that hard for an exceedingly rare item, it shouldn't be nerfed.

[Sirea]

double post ><

[toastjeff]

Wait, I'm confused. Is it making the game harder what you vets want or is it easier? Please clarify.

Sometimes it's hard to decide

[Daggaz]

Sold! Even if it did get nerfed, I would buy it for a dime.

[Quikster]

Wait, I'm confused. Is it making the game harder what you vets want or is it easier? Please clarify.

Its not making the game harder to nerf the epic SS ring. Its a very difficult item to get, and only a few have it. It does little to actually make the game easier regardless as my barbarian usually has more mana pots then the ss ring is worth, nevermind my spellcasters.

[Malidiction]

It was reverted back because the change only took place on Lamannia, and was never released on live.

There's a post from one of the Dev's about the decision to not change either one.


http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=45

Thanks for the info and the link!

Also, THANK YOU Turbine for proving me wrong and listening to the players. Crow never tasted so good!

[Durion]

Wait, I'm confused. Is it making the game harder what you vets want or is it easier? Please clarify.

If you work that hard for an exceedingly rare item, it shouldn't be nerfed.

Sometimes it's hard to decide

Its not making the game harder to nerf the epic SS ring. Its a very difficult item to get, and only a few have it. It does little to actually make the game easier regardless as my barbarian usually has more mana pots then the ss ring is worth, nevermind my spellcasters.

Making the game "harder" and just plain hitting the easy button are 2 different things. Greensteel, I love it, but I wish it was more limited in ability to access it. Things like Epic SS Rings and Epic SOS are not an easy button.

Easy buttons are the issue you're referring to. Big difference. Store bought SP pots are the issue. "How long'd it take you to find that stack of pots?" "Oh, about 30 seconds of browsing the DDO Store." Nothing like having an instant mail order catalog along with you in quest.

So, before you come in here spouting your bs, work alittle harder to actually have a clue as to what you're talking about.

Have a nice day.