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    Community Member HarveyMilk's Avatar
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    Default 20 pure rogue or 18pal/2rog or bard/fighter/rogue?

    Here's the deal. I pulled all the mats for epic silken mail. I know I know, don't build around one item. But the fact is, I want to make an epic item. =)

    I figure it's best for a rogue:
    +16 armor
    +15 move silently
    axeblock
    colorless and blue slots

    So I wrote up a build, pasted below, for a 20 rogue. I don't have a rogue, so assassinate, especially with U5 changes sounds fun. PLUS I have a daggertooth belt hanging out that I could put on this guy for fun.

    Now, please check out my build and criticize etc... but I'm also wondering if an 18 pal 2 rog DoS would just be all-around better, plus much tankier ofc.

    Obviously the rogue, with radII and stealth, would be fun on trash, but not as hot on bosses, just bc he can't get as high AC as the real AC builds. But that's fine, bc he can sneak attack like no one's business on bosses without high fort.

    Now I'm also considering a bard/fighter/rogue warchanter with sneak skills. I'd need to get decent AC, and with sneak skills, I could sneak ahead and fascinate stuff. With decent strength, and as a dwarf, I could even grab stunning blow. Please help!


    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.32
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    Sneaktank 
    Level 20 Lawful Good Drow Male
    (20 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 222
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 22
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             13                    15
    Dexterity            20                    31
    Constitution         12                    14
    Intelligence         11                    13
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             10                    12
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               9                    33
    Bluff                 0                     7
    Concentration         1                     2
    Diplomacy             0                     1
    Disable Device        4                    24
    Haggle                0                     1
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  9                    36
    Intimidate            4                    24
    Jump                  1                    20
    Listen               -1                     2
    Move Silently         9                    40
    Open Lock             9                    33
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                0                     1
    Search                4                    26
    Spot                 -1                     2
    Swim                  1                     2
    Tumble                n/a                  11
    Use Magic Device      4                    24
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling Strike
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
    Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing III
    Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing IV
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
    Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin II
    Enhancement: Rogue Assassin III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
    Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
    Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II

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    your non sneak attack DPS looks to me to be a bit low with that str score. I'd have to look closer to see if theres anything else I wouldn't do.

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    Community Member HarveyMilk's Avatar
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    Thanks, dropped 2 from dex and popped 3 into str and 1 into int

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    I hate squishy dex builds personally. Not nearly enough dps or hps. I think you can do better.
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