Lyles Warchanting, Kensai II-Archane Archer

[Lyle_Vertigo]

As I'm nearing my first TR I've spent a great deal of time planning my character's new life. I wanted the ability to adapt to most situations while still being an avid DPS.

I've seen a few builds out there that is similar to this but I've made a few changes that made the build better suited to my playstyle and better soloability/support roles.

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Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Elf Male
(12 Fighter \ 2 Ranger \ 6 Bard) 
Hit Points: 314
Spell Points: 311 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 16
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            17                    19
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               10                    12
Charisma             14                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    13
Bluff                 2                     5
Concentration         5                    15
Diplomacy             2                     5
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                6                    19
Heal                  0.5                   4
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            2                     5
Jump                  7                    20
Listen                0                     3
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               5                     6
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     3
Spot                  0                     3
Swim                  3                     8
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      6                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 2 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II


Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precise Shot
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Kensei Scimitar Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Scimitar Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 17 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Kensei Scimitar Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II

Dex was set to 19 to compensate for use of my Spectral gloves.

[ThePrincipal]

I like it. I have a similar build that is currently lvl 11 with 6f/4r/1b with an endgame of 6f/6r/8b for a kensei/tempest/warchanter dwarf build - axesinger -

I like 8 lvls of bard because of inspired courage II and 3rd lvl spells like haste and displacement. Casting is important to me, pure melee gets boring (IMHO). The early bard lvl (see below) lets me use important wands like cure moderate wounds, resist energy, detect doors etc which helps with group and solo play alike.

ranger 6 gives me free bow (secondary weapon) feats, spells (ram's might/resis energy), and tempest I which for now is very good and will become less good in the near future.

Fighter for the specialization in dwarven waraxes, extra feats, haste boost, strength, blah you know all this.

Dwarf for the free exotic feat, axe bonuses, toughness, and spell resistance.

I dont have a build program handy (although I planned it out several times to make sure I hit all 3 prest classes).

1 - fighter - toughness, weapon focus slashing
2 -3 ranger - oversized TWF, free TWF
4 - bard - wands, 1 spell, songs
5- 9 fighter - power attack, dodge, improved crit slashing, mobility, weapon spec slashing - Kensei I
10 - 14 - ranger - spring attack, free ITWF, ranger spells, and Tempest I
15-20 - bard - extend spell, GTWF, spells, and songs - Warchanter I

I maxed out concentration and perform and rest into jump and balance. I do not use UMD. It's important to note that you need to get dex to 17 (which u did but I didnt) for GTWF. If you don't want to go this way and put everything into STR you could take Stunning Blow here.

My build was 28 pt and was something like 16 str/13dex/16con/8int/11wis/8cha

I like your archer take suits the elf nicely. My preference is to run melee lvls early and bard last because the early content seems suited to melee. I noticed youre investing in bow, why dont you use more ranger for the free bow feats and Evasion something like 11ranger/7bard/2fighter? That would also give you lvl 3 bard spells which I found people expect a bard to be able to haste. fill it in with 2 fighter lvls for bonus feats and cool enchancements.

[Lyle_Vertigo]

I like it. I have a similar build that is currently lvl 11 with 6f/4r/1b with an endgame of 6f/6r/8b for a kensei/tempest/warchanter dwarf build - axesinger -

I like 8 lvls of bard because of inspired courage II and 3rd lvl spells like haste and displacement. Casting is important to me, pure melee gets boring (IMHO). The early bard lvl (see below) lets me use important wands like cure moderate wounds, resist energy, detect doors etc which helps with group and solo play alike.

ranger 6 gives me free bow (secondary weapon) feats, spells (ram's might/resis energy), and tempest I which for now is very good and will become less good in the near future.

Fighter for the specialization in dwarven waraxes, extra feats, haste boost, strength, blah you know all this.

Dwarf for the free exotic feat, axe bonuses, toughness, and spell resistance.

I dont have a build program handy (although I planned it out several times to make sure I hit all 3 prest classes).

1 - fighter - toughness, weapon focus slashing
2 -3 ranger - oversized TWF, free TWF
4 - bard - wands, 1 spell, songs
5- 9 fighter - power attack, dodge, improved crit slashing, mobility, weapon spec slashing - Kensei I
10 - 14 - ranger - spring attack, free ITWF, ranger spells, and Tempest I
15-20 - bard - extend spell, GTWF, spells, and songs - Warchanter I

I maxed out concentration and perform and rest into jump and balance. I do not use UMD. It's important to note that you need to get dex to 17 (which u did but I didnt) for GTWF. If you don't want to go this way and put everything into STR you could take Stunning Blow here.

My build was 28 pt and was something like 16 str/13dex/16con/8int/11wis/8cha

I like your archer take suits the elf nicely. My preference is to run melee lvls early and bard last because the early content seems suited to melee. I noticed youre investing in bow, why dont you use more ranger for the free bow feats and Evasion something like 11ranger/7bard/2fighter? That would also give you lvl 3 bard spells which I found people expect a bard to be able to haste. fill it in with 2 fighter lvls for bonus feats and cool enchancements.

Thank you, I wanted 7 Bard for an extra +1 dmg to songs and the cure serious spell. However, 12 fighter has to be maintained in order to keep the Kensai II and the wonderful melee boost it provides and by removing 1 level of ranger you would have to give up two feats to select TWF and Rapid Shot, which there are no expendable feats listed. Toughness is imperative not just for the extra HP but also to keep you from selecting mediocre enhancements to unlock the ones you need.

Saying that, it is also impossible in selecting more levels in Ranger as you would have to either give up the Kensai II or Warchanting. I'm afraid in terms of class levels everything is set in stone for this build :/ Perform is a useless skill unless you are going full Bard, once you start splashing other classes the 1/2 point per level will prevent you from manipulating anything beyond lower levels, even with item bonuses.

UMD is very important since 6 levels of Bard will allow you to invest enough into it to make use of any equipable items once you cap and will be able to make use of wands.

Believe me, I've spent days trying to figure out how I can get more out of it lol.

[Lyle_Vertigo]

While servers were done today I was in deep thought over my favorite build. After spending hours of manipulating feats, ability points and Enhancements I was able to fix most of the flaws that my old build had.

Note 1: Half-Elf was not present when build was first made, this now allows me to keep Arcane Archer as well as take the Half-Elf rouge path for 3d6 sneak attack damage. This is a reasonable trade-off to the Valamer 1&2 to attack & damage for both scimitar and longbow. However, the rouge enhancement 1&2 is cheaper than elf longbow+scimitar attack & damage enhancements, leaving room necessary for toughness enhancements which brings me to the second note.

Note 2: A big flaw in the previous build was the lack of Toughness feat. After boost from various equipment was only able to get HP up to mid-300s (not to mention penalty to Con that Elves suffer). I recently respec'ed to sacrifice Kensai II for Toughness via giving up Weapon Spec: Slashing for Toughness. This is now corrected by instead only taking ranged weapon spec, greater focus and greater ranged spec. at level 20 for Kensai II. This was thought impossible before ( to have both Toughness and Greater Spec. due to an issue with feat availability at a given level.

Note 3: The updated version is based on a 2nd TR build with +2 tomes. In order to make STR and DEX requirements for taken feats for lower builds one might have to make sacrifices from CON.

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Lyles Vertigo
Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Half-Elf Male
(12 Fighter \ 2 Ranger \ 6 Bard) 
Hit Points: 374
Spell Points: 235 
BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 17
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    22
Dexterity            15                    20
Constitution         18                    20
Intelligence         10                    13
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    21
Bluff                -1                     2
Concentration         8                    19
Diplomacy            -1                     2
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                     2
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate           -1                     4
Jump                  7                    17
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         2                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               3                     6
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                6                    15
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I


Level 2 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Enhancement: Half-Elf Improved Trap Sense I


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I


Level 11 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery I


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precise Shot
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows


Level 13 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Flanking Mastery II


Level 17 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II


Level 19 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows