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    SHOwrldOrder 18ftr/2rog
    Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
    (18 Fighter \ 2 Rogue) 
    Stats; (does not show items influence)
    Hit Points: 426
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 17
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    19
    Dexterity            14                    22
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         14                    16
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             12                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                    15
    Bluff                 1                     2
    Concentration         3                     5
    Diplomacy             1                     2
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                5                    23
    Heal                  1                     2
    Hide                  6                    10
    Intimidate            5                    42
    Jump                  7                    19
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         6                    10
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                2                     3
    Search                2                     5
    Spot                  3                     4
    Swim                  3                     4
    Tumble                6                    10
    Use Magic Device      5                    25
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Hide (+4)
    Skill: Intimidate (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Automatic) Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
    Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
    Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
    Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
    Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
    Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
    Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
    Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
    Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
    Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
    Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
    Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
    Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
    Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
    Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Feat: (Automatic) Trip
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
    Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Student of the Sword
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
    Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery I
    Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
    Enhancement: Fighter Tower Shield Mastery I
    Enhancement: Fighter Tower Shield Mastery II
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+8)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate
    Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Skill: Balance (+0.5)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery
    Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
    
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
    
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
    
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
    
    
    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
    
    
    Level 17 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
    
    
    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost IV
    
    
    Level 19 (Fighter)
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II
    
    
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Skill: Haggle (+1)
    Skill: Intimidate (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
    Enhancement: Fighter Tower Shield Mastery III
    Items:

    Weapon; GSDwA PDM+EDM+(PE)OE Holy + Acid Burst + HA4 +1d4 Slicing + Keen
    Weapon2; GSDwA POM+NOM+(PN)OE 10%Heal Amp + 30% Neg Energy Absorb + HA4 Concort Op. DONE
    Armor; DTLA +5 resists +20% Heal Amp +3 dodge +1ac ritual
    Shield; Levik's Defender +1ac ritual DONE
    Helm; Epic Helm of the Mroranon +7wiz +15intim + Fear Im.
    Neck; Stalwart Necklace +6con +1 resists ritual DONE
    Trink; Litany of the Dead +1 to all abilities
    Gogg; GSG AEEx3 +6xCha Skills (2nd shroud item)
    Cloak; Epic Cloak of the Silver Concord +7cha +15dip +15hag +Persuasion(+3chaskills) + (yellow) Disease Im.
    Belt; GSB EEM+POM+(EP)EM HvyFt +5prot +30hp +3conskills +ImprovedRegen +1 resist rit DONE
    Brac; Chaosgaurds +2 Dodge DONE
    Glov; Epic Spectral Gloves Ethearal +7dex +4attack bonus +(yellow) FF
    Boot; Epic Dustless Boots +30% Stride +15 Hide +15 Move Silent +3/ch CL20 Jump + (yellow) PAP
    Ring1; Tower Ring +1xcha +2xcon
    Ring2; Cinders Band +6str +1xcon +2xdex DONE

    Need +3 Cha or Dex Tome

    Final Stats
    Str 26
    Dex 32
    Con 30
    Int 17
    Wiz 18
    Cha 24

    Intim Base 67

    Ac:
    10 Base
    9 Armor
    10 Shield
    11 Dex Bonus
    5 Shield Block
    3 Stalwart III
    4 Stalwart Stance
    2 Stalwart Tower Set
    5 Combat Ex
    6 Dodge Bonuses (1+2+3)
    5 Protection
    4 Heighten Awareness
    5 Natural Armor
    1 Haste
    79, +;
    4 Ac Song
    2 Recitation
    5 Ftr Ac Boost
    90

    Did I forget Anything?
    Last edited by SHOrider; 08-07-2010 at 01:11 AM.
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    gfl on your epic helm means ring can change to chattering for +3dodge ac and yugo pots for 2 more dex etc to add to ac if you havent met max dex bonuses. Also look at what can be slotted onto epic spectrals possibly gfl/luck +2 etc something that will allow for more saves/skills. 20% healing amp on dt 2nd tier? Also perhaps look at a greensteel weapon with 10% 30% amp to hold when shield blocking something like +5 Greensteel Dwarven Axe (2d8, 20/x3) With 10% Healing Amplification, +1 Strength (Exceptional) - +6 Wisdom, +10 Diplomacy, +10 Haggle, +30% Healing Amplification - Concordant Opposition: When attacked, Chance to gain hps or spell points. 4ac from ha is not gonna break you when sitting on 100ish ac 60% amp would go alot further in keeping you alive in times like tanking horoth. Look at what trash feats can also be dropped off to be replaced for fighter bonuses and take more toughness. 22hp will go alot further then something like mobility/spring attack its hardly built for dps so i wouldnt be chasing +4 to hit when moving when 98% of the time youll stand in a corner shield blocking intiming.
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    how on earth are you getting 20 armor, and 21 shield bonus?
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    Post Some things fixed

    Added chat ring and amp to DTA and concort op DwAxe looking for feats to switch out but not finding them no feat that i took are fighter feats and none of the fighter feats i took can be changed to toughness or my regular selected feats.
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    Exclamation high armor and shield stats

    Quote Originally Posted by valorik View Post
    how on earth are you getting 20 armor, and 21 shield bonus?
    the DTLA is 8armor +7 dex bonus +1 ac for ritual +3dex bonus for enhancements +1dex bonus for fighter past life feat = 9armor +11dex bonus = 20

    the Levik's shield is 9armor +4 dex bonus +1 ac for ritual +3dex bonus for enhancements +3dex bonus for stalwart defender +1 for ftr past life feat = 10armor +11 dex bonus = 21

    but u did show me that i added my dex bonus twice so thank u. now modified above.
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    how're you getting uncanny dodge with 2 rogue levels?

    If you plan on wearing dragontouched why not put 3 dodge on the third tier of that and wear the epic ring of the silver concord? use your cloak to craft, use your belt slot as the epic belt of the mroanon?
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    Post y is uncanny there?

    Quote Originally Posted by valorik View Post
    how're you getting uncanny dodge with 2 rogue levels?

    If you plan on wearing dragontouched why not put 3 dodge on the third tier of that and wear the epic ring of the silver concord? use your cloak to craft, use your belt slot as the epic belt of the mroanon?
    Stupid Planner thinks im a super fighter or sumptin... Uncanny Dodge has been removed
    Stalward Stance Updated
    New Fighter Bonus Feats taken as TWF Feat line
    Dodge 3 on DTA + deathblock and hjeal amp 20%
    I personaly like the concord cloak +3 cha skills is nice, and it saves me an epic item
    Added the e. chimera crown, and Circle of Hatered
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    not a bad build

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    Post Update to Build

    increased con and cha
    removed circle of hatered and e. chimira crown and deathblock from dta
    added e. helm mroranon and +1xcha tower ring and +5 resists to dta
    changed smoke GSG to air gaurd xcha skills
    increased base intim
    Last edited by SHOrider; 06-15-2010 at 02:13 AM.
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    Should be SHOmethemoney because this thing looks spensive. very very expensive
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    You wont get the stalwart +3 max dex bonus to light armor it only affects med and heavy

    If you are really looking to twink this guy out dont go dt. The Epic KDS or Red dragon leather will give more dps even without the dodge 3 as long as your dex is high enough.
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    Talking Stalwart III

    Quote Originally Posted by LeLoric View Post
    You wont get the stalwart +3 max dex bonus to light armor it only affects med and heavy.


    I know and did not add the extra dex bonus that Stalwart II and III gives for armor bonuses but already had the +3dex bonus to tower shields added, the +3ac for Stalwart III (as noted in the original post) is given for taking the enhancment and is not a dex bonus

    Stalwart I gives u +1ac and +1dex bonus to tower shields
    Stalwart II gives u +1ac and +1dex bonus to tower shields and heavy armor
    Stalwart III gives u +1ac and +1dex bonus to tower shields heavy and medium armor.
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    Arrow Update to build.

    I have rebuilt the build from the ground up improving when enhancements and feats are taken.
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    Looks interesting, might be fun. I enjoy my lvl 20 Cannonfodder style build. Though I am going pure sword and board with the THF feats when the mod drops.
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