kensai/tempest/assassin

[beatles42o]

is it at all a good build? either elf or human being mainly OTWF scimitar or khopesh depending on race? would it be good at all at later levels?

i would be using kensai for critical bonus, assassin for sneak bonus, and ranger for TWF/ITWF and elf too increase my scimitar.

what do you guys think? it would probably be a 16/16/14 STR/DEX/CON build

any advice would be much appreciated

[Angelus_dead]

Not really a good idea, especially since Tempest1 is being relatively nerfed soon. You should pick one of them and stick with it.

[beatles42o]

hmmmmm, your probably right. i just dont know what i want too do. i want too make my first lvl 20 toon. but dont want too gimp him. but i also want too custom/multi class. i know i can get kensai3 and 2 lvls in ranger too get the free TWF feat....but i could get the extra feat and more(i think) going pure fighter right?

i was also wondering...do you need TWF too duel wield two light weapons. and is TWF two light weapons at all a good idea?

i like PnP DnD. it allows you too have more fun with a build that isnt quite "effective" and the fact that if your on your DMs good side and you...bribe him with food or act out on the party in favor of the DM...lets say yo ur DM doesnt like one of the people playing...you could do something fun or set him up...kill him off. when you role play you have too act as if you didnt know what the other people know...and when somebody uses what he shouldnt know for his benefit...you...find a trap and tell him that it is disarmed. but its not...HAHA...im drunk...

[Angelus_dead]

i know i can get kensai3 and 2 lvls in ranger too get the free TWF feat....but i could get the extra feat and more(i think) going pure fighter right?

Yes, fighter levels give lots of bonus feat slots so you'd have no trouble fitting TWF.

i was also wondering...do you need TWF too duel wield two light weapons. and is TWF two light weapons at all a good idea?

You need TWF for two weapons at once.
Two light weapons is OK, although bigger weapons are a bit better, especially if you go up to khopesh. The best light weapon is Kukri.

i like PnP DnD. it allows you too have more fun with a build that isnt quite "effective"

DDO is easy enough that your character doesn't need to be anywhere near the best planned to be successful. However, if you're asking about how to do better, then that's the answer you'll get.

[beatles42o]

indeed. that is good advice. the reason i was asking about TWF two light weapons is if i choose weapon finesse using 2 slashing weapons.

correct me if im wrong. khopesh are 17-20 critical (highest in game) and kukri, rapier, and scimitar are 18-20 critical?

if i didnt choose OTWF would taking two exotics in kukri and khopesh be a good build? also about critical. with fighter improved critical +3 is it? would that make it 15-20 instead of 18-20?

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Khopesh are 19-20/x3, and Rapiers are 18-20/x2.

Kukri is not an exotic, but a martial.

The Improved Critical enhancements (and the Power Critical feat) just add to your confirmation roll, it affects neither the range nor the multiplier.


You could offhand kukri with a khopesh if you didn't want to take OTWF and didn't want the penalty.

[Asketes]

you don't need a free twf feat. you're a fighter! you have plenty of feats

stay pure fighter, at least you'll have 10% chance to double strike!

[DethTrip]

The best light weapon is Kukri.

Nah, a sunblade is much better =-)

[DethTrip]

indeed. that is good advice. the reason i was asking about TWF two light weapons is if i choose weapon finesse using 2 slashing weapons.

correct me if im wrong. khopesh are 17-20 critical (highest in game) and kukri, rapier, and scimitar are 18-20 critical?

if i didnt choose OTWF would taking two exotics in kukri and khopesh be a good build? also about critical. with fighter improved critical +3 is it? would that make it 15-20 instead of 18-20?

Double post, kill me.

If you want max damage, go khopesh. Be a human, get the extra feat, and use if for khopesh. Dex builds are weak on damage. More of a balance with str being a little higher than dex is quite acceptable. Improved critical slashing feat will make a khopesh 17-20 crit range. Take that for sure. Don't worry about a light offhand. Dual khopesh even without otwf because it's only a -2 to attack. I would take it later tho.

[HGM-Chi]

The Improved Critical enhancements (and the Power Critical feat) just add to your confirmation roll, it affects neither the range nor the multiplier.

No, this is wrong.

Improved Critical *does* double the threat range, Power Critical adds to the confirm roll.
Khopesh with the Improved Critical: Slash feat is 17-20 x 3

[QuantumFX]

No, this is wrong.

Improved Critical *does* double the threat range, Power Critical adds to the confirm roll.
Khopesh with the Improved Critical: Slash feat is 17-20 x 3

He seems to be referring to the Fighter Critical Accuracy enhancement and Power Critical feat. Not the Improved Critical Feat

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Improved Critical enhancements

Fighter Critical Accuracy enhancement

I had the name wrong, but I did say enhancement. That is what I am referring to.

[QuantumFX]

I would be using kensai for critical bonus, assassin for sneak bonus, and ranger for TWF/ITWF and elf too increase my scimitar.

There is a few builds that could meet your requirements that don’t involve the soon to be *cough*thankfully*cough* nerfed Tempest I multiclass.

A pure/semipure STR based assassin build has the poison buffs (+20 to confirm crits), can take all the TWF feats and is very proficient at sneaking.

A 1 Rogue/18 Ranger/1 <other class> Tempest III still has a good “to hit” while dual wielding, Hide in Plain Sight and has plenty of AP's left over for racial enhancements.

For Update 5 a 13 Ranger/7 Rogue seems like a good choice as well. A 100%/100% TWF attack ratio, Haste Boost III, 4d6+9(ish) Sneak Attack Dice

[beatles42o]

hmmmmm, khopesh. would i be alright if i just used the looted khopesh? i hear its very expensive for them.

my one toon has 10k plat at lvl 6-8 i dont remember. i could get maybe that much or more. would that be enough for good khopeshes?