LFM Window becoming a Trade Window

[cardmj1]

Discuss...

[Sleepingcap]

There should be a way to report the LFM people and with enough reports from different accounts, they should be restricted from posting a LFM for a certain set of time.
The whole LFM turning into a trade channel is global and most unfortunate.

[phillymiket]

/trade level 8 wiz/sorc/rouge LFG

Turnabout is fair play I suppose.
(j/k that's just silly)
In fact was it a joke? Was there an argument about /trade spam raging at the time?

[Aussieee]

I don't mind people trying to trade that way, but when they try to recruit with LFM seriously makes me wonder if they turn anyone down or just blind invite.....

[Jendrak]

There should be a way to report the LFM people and with enough reports from different accounts, they should be restricted from posting a LFM for a certain set of time.
The whole LFM turning into a trade channel is global and most unfortunate.

Actually....this has happened before and it was stated that this is reportable and people have gotten banned for it before. If my memory is correct this was ruled on as "harassment" and handled accordingly. Just report it and a GM should ask them to remove the LFM and if they refuse a bann should be on its way.

Haveing said that...this is how it was handled before so unless turbine has changed it opinion this should be how its still done.

[ArkoHighStar]

I always report it as spam, especially now that there is a trade channel for that stuff

[lazylaz]

...there is a trade channel for that stuff

Which is in itself a horrible bunch of spam sometimes. At least its official though.

[Folonius]

I always report it as spam, especially now that there is a trade channel for that stuff

The trade channel should be global, I use the LFM to buy things only, not sell. Until I see mod confirmation that it is frowned upon, I see no reason not to do it.

The solution: Fix the auction house. Lower the 30% to 5-10% and make it more user friendly.

[phalaeo]

This is on Argo, although not to the extent that your screenie suggests it is on Khyber. Personally, I find it to be really obnoxious, but I do think a system like that needs to be implemented in game.

Sure, there is the Trade channel, but I like the idea of having a "message board" like the LFM but only for trades- so much easier that trying to negotiate whilst in a dungeon.

Most of the time, I send the player a /tell letting them know that they will likely have the LFM taken down by a GM-- quite honestly, most people respond kindly and tell me they didn't know it is frowned upon.

[katana_one]

Was there an argument about /trade spam raging at the time?

As a matter of fact, yes, I believe there was - I remember seeing the same LFMs when I was on earlier, right after watching some e-peen waving in trade spill over into general chat.

[Nexx]

Maybe turbine needs to implement a TRADE tab and not just a trade channel, so these people can stop flooding our LFM with their flea market.

[Slink]

Sure, there is the Trade channel, but I like the idea of having a "message board" like the LFM but only for trades- so much easier that trying to negotiate whilst in a dungeon.

There is one it is located here:
http://forums.ddo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=63

[Rauven]

/trade level 8 wiz/sorc/rouge LFG

Turnabout is fair play I suppose.
(j/k that's just silly)
In fact was it a joke? Was there an argument about /trade spam raging at the time?

That's just silly. Why would a wiz/sorc wear rouge? You're talking crazy, man.

[Vordax]

The trade channel should be global, I use the LFM to buy things only, not sell. Until I see mod confirmation that it is frowned upon, I see no reason not to do it.

Will this work:

Concerning the use of the LFM windows as a classified section:

Reports on trades/sales in LFM should be reported under 'harassment' and not using the new spam feature.

Vordax

[Vordax]

The solution: Fix the auction house. Lower the 30% to 5-10% and make it more user friendly.

Why should the auction house fees be lowered? One of the reasons for this fee is to remove plat from the economy. I am fine with 30%, if you don't like it you don't have to use it.

The user friendly part is currently being worked on.

Vordax

[Folonius]

Why should the auction house fees be lowered? One of the reasons for this fee is to remove plat from the economy. I am fine with 30%, if you don't like it you don't have to use it.

The user friendly part is currently being worked on.

Vordax

I don't ... I never buy from the AH since it's 30% cheaper to buy outside the AH.

The post by Tolero is also 3 years old, and not very noticable to the masses of the DDO community. I can stop using the LFM to buy stuff, but it's not going to phase anyone else unless something a little more substantial is posted in regards to it by DDO staff.

[Uska]

The trade channel should be global, I use the LFM to buy things only, not sell. Until I see mod confirmation that it is frowned upon, I see no reason not to do it.

The solution: Fix the auction house. Lower the 30% to 5-10% and make it more user friendly.

It is agaisnt the rules and not reading and knowning the rules isnt a defense people have been banned and will be so in the future and should be.

[alexthegood]

It is agaisnt the rules and not reading and knowning the rules isnt a defense people have been banned and will be so in the future and should be.

i have never seen SO many GREEN bars !

[Folonius]

It is agaisnt the rules and not reading and knowning the rules isnt a defense people have been banned and will be so in the future and should be.

I doubt anyone will be outright banned for a minor offense, if it is an offense at all. More likly they will be asked to remove it.

Please point to the Eula where it is states that LFM should not be used for trading. I went through it, and the closest thing I could find was:

14. You will not exhibit or partake in any behavior that degrades service performance or is disruptive to the playability of the Game or the normal functionality of the Game, causes grief, aggravation or alarm to other users, or otherwise restricts or inhibits any other user from using and enjoying the Game (for example, deliberately using bugs or loopholes, dropping excessive items or summoning excessive portals to disrupt a Game or disrupting the flow of chat in chat rooms with vulgar or abusive language, hitting the return key repeatedly, inputting excessively large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, flooding (continuous posting repetitive text), “spamming,” or excessive SHOUTING (all caps) in an attempt to disturb other users).


Causing grief to other users is a very open ended statement. You can cause grief to another user by simply casting mass camo or jump on them, or throwing a grease on the ground and sliding them into a lava pit, all which I have seen. I've also seen a VoD run where someone ran through the portal, locked everyone out, laughed about it, recalled an dropped party forcing 11 people to run back through the subterrane. I will debate that casting mass camo or jump, no matter how annoying it may be to the other person, isn't griefing.

To the matter at hand, puting up a LFM advertising that you are buying something or selling something isn't causing any real grief to other players. They may claim it is, but it's not doing anything to really hinder game play. It's actually doing less hinderance than casting mass camo or jump on another player, and less than nothing is still nothing.

Even assuming that you are right and I'm wrong, something so minor of an infraction that doesn't actually affect another character in any way isn't going to get someone banned outright, or at least I should hope not.

More like <GM> tells you: Please remove your LFM buy/sell request as it is against the Eula.

[Lorkian]

First offense you'd probably get warned true enough, but it's the subsequent offenses that occur after the warning, where the ban hammer comes out.