A cleric? really? Renegade feel free to respond

[Ree]

Hmm...this thread is extremely illuminating! It's a great example of the current state of our community.

Also, even though I don't know bart, and am not cool enough yet to run with Legion (it's all good ), even I know this thread isn't actually about clerics. I also know that antagonizing respected members of the community with completely unvalidated and faulty opinions is a poor choice.

(I have to admit I lol'd when they didn't know who legion was! Whoever this person's guild leader is needs to reign them in because they're just embarrassing themselves and those they associate with; that or claim him and antagonize the whole server so we have fun reading for the weekend. Oh, and on that note, anyone care to clue me in to their guild?)

[petegunn]

I want to apologize to "WHO", my whole message was to encourage the excitement one can have playing a cleric and the importance of the other players who sojourn with you. You don't have to play a boring nannybot who tags along like some tool. That's all, I didn't want a fight. I hope you can see that.

I don't take being insulted without reason lightly though, nor anyone else who gets insulted the same way likewise. That's who I won't apologize to. They need to take a better look at themselves.

Calling people idiots and morons for no reason is only making yourself look bad. Most of Thelanis is filled with good decent people and I hate the dark side of it that rears its head out every so often. So yeah, I took Barts comments as degrading to our server. And Irony forged as degrading to himself.



If I got neg rep for that...boo hoo...look I am crying. On the contrary, I wear that battle scar with pride.

I am done with this thread.

It appears by skimming the ops initial drivel, I have missed out on some top notch drama, this best be good for when I come back from a relaxing bath I shall digest the entire thread. Ghoul since you are the person responsible for arousing my curiosity, I shall hold you to book for my late night entertainment. This best be a box office smasher and not some straight to DVD weak sauce.

[gorloch]

It appears by skimming the ops initial drivel, I have missed out on some top notch drama, this best be good for when I come back from a relaxing bath I shall digest the entire thread. Ghoul since you are the person responsible for arousing my curiosity, I shall hold you to book for my late night entertainment. This best be a box office smasher and not some straight to DVD weak sauce.

Make sure to grab some popcorn. I love when new players think they are experts. It's quite comical. Btw how have you been?


PIXA

[petegunn]

Make sure to grab some popcorn. I love when new players think they are experts. It's quite comical. Btw how have you been?


PIXA

Just dandy our pixaaaa... I do hope that guild of yours is raiding with you hard and often I miss those dwatters^^

[Robi3.0]

ignorant isn't one of them.

oh oh oh! He is drunk a lot! What do I win?

[Pyromaniac]

He's in legion, they enforce knowledge in all classes. And Bart is many things, ignorant isn't one of them.

Bart isn't in Legion. Though personally I think if you've never played a cleric or FvS then you aren't a complete player.

[Ironforge_Clan]

That's who I won't apologize to. They need to take a better look at themselves.

Never asked for one and wouldn't expect one from you.

Calling people idiots and morons for no reason

Not being able to comprehend is reason enough in my book. Coming after my friends is another.

So yeah, I took Barts comments as degrading to our server. And Irony forged as degrading to himself.

LOL...you obviously don't know Bart and if you think this was degrading to me well then you don't know me one bit.

If I got neg rep for that...boo hoo...look I am crying. On the contrary, I wear that battle scar with pride.

I am done with this thread.

It isn't worth my time to neg rep you or anyone for that matter. Have a great day!

[centurian1]

Wow, Notice that Bart only started this topic,and has yet to reply even after 5 pages of you guys argueing over clerics and there tactics.I have to give Bart +1 for stirring it up.But I have to say that clerics and favored souls are and can be most powerful played class in game.So if you havnt played one,your surely missing out.

[Vua]

Wow, Notice that Bart only started this topic,and has yet to reply even after 5 pages of you guys argueing over clerics and there tactics.I have to give Bart +1 for stirring it up.But I have to say that clerics and favored souls are and can be most powerful played class in game.So if you havnt played one,your surely missing out.

You are correct, just not when swinging a weapon.

[Braegan]

ok....so......... my guild leader tells me i need to roll a clerc so i can be "well rounded" why?????? why should i be subjected to the loser tools that expet me to pick up there slack? How ever if Being a cleric ( i am veteran btw so it would start lvl 4 32 pt) what should i choose? a dwarf, low dv build with high con and wis? whatcha think?
i need some help...ren please feel free to tell me i suck then sugest a good 32 pt cleric build to satisfy to GL....btw i hate playing clerics but i do feel clerics should e healers not battle b'atches that, by definition is a palidine.

Hmmm, so after reading 5 pages I've gathered the following to make my recomendation:

Bart
- has 32 pt
- has vet status (1000 favor in game)
- has noob like skills and likely the grace and twitch skills of an African elephant
- drinks alot while playing
- is a bit of an instigator

Well, I know you seem to "think" otherwise but Bart a battle-cleric is your fit! And I don't mean one of those mamby-pamby ones. I mean a real one that isn't afraid to madstone during boss fights to mix it up!

Good Luck with the build!

[lord_of_rage]

Clerics do not have the best offensive spells, and if you did decide to use all your spell points offensively it burns out your heals. When you burn out your heals, and have no real offensive capability left when your sp is gone you are as good as dead. Going even slightly battle cleric helps better your chances for surivival. Even a splash of fighter would help if you didn't want to gimp your cleric abilities by dumping ability scores in favor of strength. A good THW can make up for lower end strength in a pinch. You don't have to sacrifice charisma.

If you make your cleric just a fluffy healbot, you will need your party members alot more. What happens when you are the last man standing?

Ghoul you make a ton of false statments that shows your inexperience with the game. To me you fit in the insta-vet catagory. Clerics have several offensive spells that work well. Honestly a solid cleric doesnt need to group the moment they get blade barrier. You really dont need cha on a battle cleric at all. I dont think most people can handle your attitude at all to be quite honest.

[Elaril]

It appears by skimming the ops initial drivel, I have missed out on some top notch drama, this best be good for when I come back from a relaxing bath I shall digest the entire thread. Ghoul since you are the person responsible for arousing my curiosity, I shall hold you to book for my late night entertainment. This best be a box office smasher and not some straight to DVD weak sauce.

Not worth the read at all...just an excitable dude who got in over his head and couldn't admit it and stop posting. I thought it was going to be better than it was too.

[DoctorWhofan]

OTAY Mr. Ghouls --insert some obvious well meaning and thought out explaination that went way over the person's head.--.

Hugs for you! I am glad you caught it. Therea very few battle clerics I would play with, most are under Impaqt's name. If you want to be a battlecleric, be a offensive casting/healbot/buffer first.

Saying a battle cleric in the right hands is viable, is agreeing with me. Because that was my whole argument.

Playing "my little healbot"...may work for some but when you have a whole party to heal and you cast alot offensively in order to have at least some fun in your role pretty soon you are running on empty and no more then a fragile commoner rather then a hero class. I see it alot, they run out of mana then complain about wand whipping and being able to do nothing else. It's a sad sight that leaves everyone bitter. These aren't arcane casters, these are fully armored, armed, casters...if you gimp that...your fault.

And if they conserve their spell points when they can be more proactive in combat, casting every once in a while tagging along more then anything...you have a tool, cold, mechanical, boring character everyone hates to play.

Whatever...I don't care...

You called me a Moron for arguing with her about something she later said was viable...

Can it. You just backed her up blindly...go you... yay....*clap*

The reason I was cold to her was she was defending someone who called everyone around him an idiot. I guess she is used to it by the company she keeps...*cough* Moron..

And I responded, and you overlooked. Like I said, I'll see you at 20 then talk to me.

Yes?

Gungie-poo you missed the fun!

oh oh oh! He is drunk a lot! What do I win?

no. Drunkeness doesn't BEGIN to discribe Bart.


Bart, bart, bart...you win! You got Ghost there hook, line, and sinker!

[DoctorWhofan]

Not worth the read at all...just an excitable dude who got in over his head and couldn't admit it and stop posting. I thought it was going to be better than it was too.

It was quite amusing. Me? not knowing anything about being a cleric...heehee!


And for the record, I still have 9 healers on Thelanis alone. 2 On Kyhber, 1 on Sarlona...

I DO have an empty character slot...what should I play, hmmmmm?

[Elaril]

It was quite amusing. Me? not knowing anything about being a cleric...heehee!

Well that part was amusing of course, but it was almost too painful to watch the respondent dig himself deeper and deeper with each post and not being able to step back and realize what he was doing.

[Bunker]

And for the record, I still have 9 healers on Thelanis alone.

Having 9 "healers" on Thelanis just means you like choosing the divine classes for your mules. Personally I pick barbarians for the speed boost from mail to AH to bank.

[DoctorWhofan]

Having 9 "healers" on Thelanis just means you like choosing the divine classes for your mules. Personally I pick barbarians for the speed boost from mail to AH to bank.

It was general term to several classes i play that are mainly healers. Besides, you only see me in raids, in which all I do is heal. Obviously you don't see me solo anything, or duo it. No I am not alking about the harbor either.

[Waukeen]

Really I don't see what the hubbub is all about. Class roles, in order to have a successful life in DDO, must be well defined. Any varience from these roles is a failure in the player and as such should be belittled until the point that they step back into the appropriate and well defined class role. If you follow the class roles below you will find your gaming expieriance much more fullfilling.

Clerics/Favored Soul: Heal those in front of you, never behind. As a healer you should always be in the back and as such always have a view of whom needs the most healing attention. Any casting of spells not of the heal variety will result in mocking and name calling, as your job is to heal, not crowd control.

Wizard/Sorcerer/Bard: Keep the melee characters hasted at all times. Do not hassle them with "group on me" or "gather for haste". If you're not good enough to get you and the party on the move then cast the spell a second time on yourself. You should have plenty of spell points as the only need you have for them is the liberal casting of haste and the occasional firewall or web when and where the party leader directs you to. If you are a bard sing your songs and get the hell out of the way unless you're casting haste. Anything outside of this stepping outside of your party role, and as such will envoke the wrath of those that know better.

Monks: Roll up a real character and get back to us. Noob

Fighters/Paladins/Barbarians: Attack anything you see with a rage bordering on insanity. It is the rest of the partys job to maintain your incredible killing prowess, if any in the party deviates from their specific class roles and does anything to slow down or detour your awesomeness it is your responsibility to belittle, insult, and browbeat them back into what they are supposed to be doing.

Rogues: I don't care how cool the new mechanic buff to repeaters looks. Put it down and pick back up the dual rapiers and do some real DPS or else we'll replace you with a monk. (See monk section)

I hope you have found the class roles helpful to your future with DDO. Happy gaming!

Nice.

[Waukeen]

I find it very interesting that bart is abstaining from adding anything after his OP.

Well played sir, well played,

like being the scientist in a bad B movie that lets loose the beast and is not seen for the rest of the aforementioned flick.

He is probably gonna just give it until sunday morning and laugh his ass off with a cup of coffee at the nonsense he has caused.

/also

if someone told me to roll a character I would roll a piece of **** cleric and undergear him just to annoy the demands of the guildleader.
Then when he/she finally states, "man just dont bring that gimp cleric around us anymore,"
I would lesser res him, eat tomes, and equip the gear I have been collecting.

maybe its good that I am in a two man guild.

[Delt]

I approve of this thread. In a desperate attempt to keep it rolling, here are Ghoulstouch's toons:

http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/kreecha/
http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/aetheriala/
http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/leaundra/