A cleric? really? Renegade feel free to respond

[bartcom2000]

ok....so......... my guild leader tells me i need to roll a clerc so i can be "well rounded" why?????? why should i be subjected to the loser tools that expet me to pick up there slack? How ever if Being a cleric ( i am veteran btw so it would start lvl 4 32 pt) what should i choose? a dwarf, low dv build with high con and wis? whatcha think?
i need some help...ren please feel free to tell me i suck then sugest a good 32 pt cleric build to satisfy to GL....btw i hate playing clerics but i do feel clerics should e healers not battle b'atches that, by definition is a palidine.

[Ssmooth]

IMO: Dwarves get the most sp + the racial con, Humans get the extra feat + versatility, 1/2ling's get healing dragonmarks.....the list goes on.

Really with your experience, it shouldn't matter what race you choose. Just max wis, high con should be about it.

[Chai]

If picking up the slack of the loser tools is your definition of the role of the cleric class, then I agree, you should not be forced to roll a cleric.

I think your guild leader made a good suggestion though. Seeing through the eyes of another class and what it has to do in a group will greatly influence the way you adjust your play to keep others who play them having a good opinion of you.

[Barumar]

If picking up the slack of the loser tools is your definition of the role of the cleric class, then I agree, you should not be forced to roll a cleric.

I think your guild leader made a good suggestion though. Seeing through the eyes of another class and what it has to do in a group will greatly influence the way you adjust your play to keep others who play them having a good opinion of you.

Agree, I think your Guild Leader made a good call requiring you to roll/level a Cleric!

Barumar

[GhoulsTouch]

I can't believe you are in a guild ... you need to pug until you realize the diversity and importance of different playstyles of the different classes. Your attitude shows alot of ignorance. If that's how you feel about playing the role of a healer I can just imagine what you normally play like. I would drop you until you matured, seriously.

[DoctorWhofan]

I can't believe you are in a guild ... you need to pug until you realize the diversity and importance of different playstyles of the different classes. Your attitude shows alot of ignorance.

He's in legion, they enforce knowledge in all classes. And Bart is many things, ignorant isn't one of them.

[Nezichiend]

Go drow, 6 con. If you die alot your guildies will learn to protect you like they should. Max your cha and leave wis at 8 for least amount of sp because your guildies should learn to not take so much dmg so you don't have to heal them. With the rest of your points put them into dex/intel so you can max balance so you don't get tripped by epic velah like all those other noob healers.

[Sydril]

Someone with 1500+ posts doesn't know how to build a cleric.

DDO forums you have failed us all through your inability to inundate this player with two dozen cleric builds on a daily, if not hourly basis.

[GhoulsTouch]

He's in legion, they enforce knowledge in all classes. And Bart is many things, ignorant isn't one of them.

Tactical Legion?
LOL...send this guy to boot camp. Appreciation of your party members is the first thing you should learn. Calling people "losers" gives you bad marks right off. Moreso if you aren't going battle cleric, you need those "losers" probably more then they will need you.

[thwart]

This thread struck me as funny ... I am the leader of a very small guild (only my toons and my son's toons are members). However, I decided that I needed to roll/level up a cleric so that I could become a more well rounded player. Therefore, I have the wisdom to lead a large guild!

[Caine52184]

ok....so......... my guild leader tells me i need to roll a clerc so i can be "well rounded" why?????? why should i be subjected to the loser tools that expet me to pick up there slack? How ever if Being a cleric ( i am veteran btw so it would start lvl 4 32 pt) what should i choose? a dwarf, low dv build with high con and wis? whatcha think?
i need some help...ren please feel free to tell me i suck then sugest a good 32 pt cleric build to satisfy to GL....btw i hate playing clerics but i do feel clerics should e healers not battle b'atches that, by definition is a palidine.

HI DEAR !! . First off.. quit pikcing on ren. (jk im not ren's keeper or anything, just picking on Bart) Secondly..if you hate playing a cleric PLEASE dont make one! Yes it would be nice if everyone had a cleric but I would not play a class that I dont enjoy...that's just silly.

I can't believe you are in a guild ... you need to pug until you realize the diversity and importance of different playstyles of the different classes. Your attitude shows alot of ignorance. If that's how you feel about playing the role of a healer I can just imagine what you normally play like. I would drop you until you matured, seriously.

Do you feel better now that you got that out of your system?

[GhoulsTouch]

Do you feel better now that you got that out of your system?

Just glad someone who refers to his fellow guildmates/party members as losers isn't in my guild...just saying. Moreso being the healer...good gawd.

[KannyaAryien]

Tactical Legion?
LOL...send this guy to boot camp. Appreciation of your party members is the first thing you should learn. Calling people "losers" gives you bad marks right off. Moreso if you aren't going battle cleric, you need those "losers" probably more then they will need you.

Randomly curious, why would you need the party/guild more if you're not a battle cleric?

[DoctorWhofan]

Tactical Legion?
LOL...send this guy to boot camp. Appreciation of your party members is the first thing you should learn. Calling people "losers" gives you bad marks right off. Moreso if you aren't going battle cleric, you need those "losers" probably more then they will need you.

no LEGION..a totally diferrent ballgame.

[Caine52184]

Tactical Legion?
LOL...send this guy to boot camp. Appreciation of your party members is the first thing you should learn. Calling people "losers" gives you bad marks right off. Moreso if you aren't going battle cleric, you need those "losers" probably more then they will need you.

Why would you need any losers if you arent going battle cleric? You obviously dont play a cleric lol.

And no..not Tactical Legion in case you are confused. Legion and Tactical Legion are 2 different guilds.

[GhoulsTouch]

Randomly curious, why would you need the party/guild more if you're not a battle cleric?

Clerics do not have the best offensive spells, and if you did decide to use all your spell points offensively it burns out your heals. When you burn out your heals, and have no real offensive capability left when your sp is gone you are as good as dead. Going even slightly battle cleric helps better your chances for surivival. Even a splash of fighter would help if you didn't want to gimp your cleric abilities by dumping ability scores in favor of strength. A good THW can make up for lower end strength in a pinch. You don't have to sacrifice charisma.

If you make your cleric just a fluffy healbot, you will need your party members alot more. What happens when you are the last man standing?

[Bilger]

ok....so......... my guild leader tells me i need to roll a clerc so i can be "well rounded" why?????? why should i be subjected to the loser tools that expet me to pick up there slack? How ever if Being a cleric ( i am veteran btw so it would start lvl 4 32 pt) what should i choose? a dwarf, low dv build with high con and wis? whatcha think?
i need some help...ren please feel free to tell me i suck then sugest a good 32 pt cleric build to satisfy to GL....btw i hate playing clerics but i do feel clerics should e healers not battle b'atches that, by definition is a palidine.

Now no one has the right to tell you what you should play, suggest it maybe but tell you ya have to lol

It would be nice for people to all play a cleric it makes for smarter play once you realize what a cleric goes through. It does make you a more well rounded player.

Now you saying that all are loser tools that aren't clerics means you are talking about yourself since you don't have one!! Just saying!!

As far as build look at the cleric forums read up and build one that fits style!!!

[Bunker]

In U5, zen archary is coming to the game. Bowahealers rejoice!

[Fattiest]

Clerics do not have the best offensive spells, and if you did decide to use all your spell points offensively it burns out your heals. When you burn out your heals, and have no real offensive capability left when your sp is gone you are as good as dead. Going even slightly battle cleric helps better your chances for surivival. Even a splash of fighter would help if you didn't want to gimp your cleric abilities by dumping ability scores in favor of strength. A good THW can make up for lower end strength in a pinch. You don't have to sacrifice charisma.

If you make your cleric just a fluffy healbot, you will need your party members alot more.

Blade Barrier, Implosion? are these CLR spells........ Ill give it to you that pulling out a THW can be nice at lower lev's but after that your wasting you time, just throw down a BB and kite.......

[Stormwine]

As I am reading this I am really torn as a Heal-bot Cleric. I play on Argo but any time I see the word Cleric in a post I read it as in my 12 years of MMO'ing I have always loved being the healer. I Have never thought of any player or class as losers beyond that being who I am I could never be in a guild that told me what class I needed to play, or how to play. I have no concept of how to play a Damage Caster merely because every time I have tried I dont have fun, and fun is the only reason I play ANY game. If you like your guild and its a big part of your game try the cleric. I love my drow build, I think the most important thin is have fun that is all