earned vs bought

[Lorien_the_First_One]

What was the content balance for Shroud and Enhancements allowing for a 53 base resist?

I think the higher level content was in fact designed with shroud items in general in mind, yes.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

What was the content balance for Shroud and Enhancements allowing for a 53 base resist?

250 HP fireballs...

[Chai]

Turbine is not a non-profit organization.

This will probably remain the best thing said in this entire thread, as it clearly explains the situation in a purely factual non-biased manner.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

What did they do then to make those balance changes?

Casters cast more damaging spells (meta magic).
Lava does more damage (was changed in mod 3 I believe, you could swim in lava with a house P buff before this).
Spells that do not allow for evasion.

[krud]

I think the higher level content was in fact designed with shroud items in general in mind, yes.

Cold damage from the shadow wraiths in ToD.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

This will probably remain the best thing said in this entire thread, as it clearly explains the situation in a purely factual non-biased manner.

Yup. If the changes were purely convinence, I would say it was a brilliant move. Or if it was a HORRIBLE grind to get it in game and you had the choice of buying instead I would say it was brilliant (I buy my TRs, not grind for them, and am happy for the payment option but think its great there is a free option)

But when you can only get something for cash that impacts gameplay, thats harder to justify.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

This will probably remain the best thing said in this entire thread, as it clearly explains the situation in a purely factual non-biased manner.

You need to be careful not to dry the cow though...

[Deaeth]

My stupid neighbor has a better car than me. I should be entitled to one too, and I shouldn't have to pay for it. It's just not fair.

ROFL Perfect example. I wish I could give you 10 +1's, but sorry, they limit me to one +1, Thanks for the laugh this morning.

Oh and while your at it, I want a car too.

[Chai]

My stupid neighbor has a better car than me. I should be entitled to one too, and I shouldn't have to pay for it. It's just not fair.

Mrs Jones. Neighbor Sam.

[Hendrik]

250 HP fireballs...

Then we can expect MOBs to be doing more damage on Elements, right? And this has nothing to do with some Casters being give Metamagic.

So then we should expect to see 300+pt Fireball.

All those poor, poor unguilded.



More grinding of Shroud for Resist items, Enhancement resets to pick up natural elemental resists, grinding for P favor, and everyone will have to be in a guild - and a top renown guild too.

INGENIOUS!

Can't wait for the LFM's now! Must be in 80+ Guild to join and have "X" upgrade to join! Must show Airship with upgrade!

[Chai]

You need to be careful not to dry the cow though...

Meh, more cows are on the way.

For each old cow that dries up we will get 5 or 6 new cows who have plenty of malk to go around.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

Then we can expect MOBs to be doing more damage on Elements, right? And this has nothing to do with some Casters being give Metamagic.

So then we should expect to see 300+pt Fireball.

All those poor, poor unguilded.



More grinding of Shroud for Resist items, Enhancement resets to pick up natural elemental resists, grinding for P favor, and everyone will have to be in a guild - and a top renown guild too.

INGENIOUS!

Can't wait for the LFM's now! Must be in 80+ Guild to join and have "X" upgrade to join! Must show Airship with upgrade!

Are you really that naive?
Do you really think that it won't happen exactly like that?

[Deaeth]

But when you can only get something for cash that impacts gameplay, thats harder to justify.

Name ONE thing you can ONLY get with cash. ONE........I'm waiting.........OH WAIT, FREE TURBINE POINTS......

K , besides that.....Name one thing you can get ONLY with cash.................name ONE thing in the DDO store that says an actual US Dollar amount instead of Turbine Points.

Your still thinking aren't you..........get back to me when you find something.........

[BurningDownTheHouse]

Meh, more cows are on the way.

For each old cow that dries up we will get 5 or 6 new cows who have plenty of malk to go around.

Probably short lived cows though.
No more 4 year cows. It's 3-6 months cows now...

[BurningDownTheHouse]

Name ONE thing you can ONLY get with cash. ONE........I'm waiting.........OH WAIT, FREE TURBINE POINTS......

K , besides that.....Name one thing you can get ONLY with cash.................name ONE thing in the DDO store that says an actual US Dollar amount instead of Turbine Points.

Your still thinking aren't you..........get back to me when you find something.........

Yes. We get it. It's free.
You failed to tell us how fun gets into the picture, unless you pay...

[Chai]

Then we can expect MOBs to be doing more damage on Elements, right? And this has nothing to do with some Casters being give Metamagic.

So then we should expect to see 300+pt Fireball.

All those poor, poor unguilded.



More grinding of Shroud for Resist items, Enhancement resets to pick up natural elemental resists, grinding for P favor, and everyone will have to be in a guild - and a top renown guild too.

INGENIOUS!

Can't wait for the LFM's now! Must be in 80+ Guild to join and have "X" upgrade to join! Must show Airship with upgrade!

Please link to screenshot or full HD video of airship complete with buffs and other toys to get in group.

Yeah, this type of failure equates to people who call others out for join dates on the forums. Its more of a failure in the person who tossed up the LFM though and not as much a failure in the system.

Neither stat will mean anything. Its just another number to wave around.

[Stuttrboy]

Yup. If the changes were purely convinence, I would say it was a brilliant move. Or if it was a HORRIBLE grind to get it in game and you had the choice of buying instead I would say it was brilliant (I buy my TRs, not grind for them, and am happy for the payment option but think its great there is a free option)

But when you can only get something for cash that impacts gameplay, thats harder to justify.

As has been stated there isn't a thing for sale in the DDO store besides turbine points that require cash. You can grind Turbine point and never pay a cent. So you are looking at either your HORRIBLE grin to get the TPs or paying cash for them, it's your choice.

[Deaeth]

Yes. We get it. It's free.
You failed to tell us how fun gets into the picture, unless you pay...

LOL, most of you do get it. I have to keep reposting that cuz apparently a few people don't get it.

Fun? Grindings never fun. I'm vip and I have to grind renown, and other things. I even do the 100 favor grind now and then for the bonus TP's. Ya I've spent my 500 free tp's per month foolishly in the past.

Fun is what you make of the game. If you find my post showing how a guild can EASILY farm the TP's required for these large ships in just 1 hour per day for a month or 2, then you will understand. If you guild is DEAD set on getting the astral diamonds for free for the best ships. It can be done with a little work.

Not everything in every game is fun. Dying usually isn't fun, although sometimes it can be. Raid wipes aren't fun. Trying abbot 8 times in a row because the ice wand people keep messing up isn't fun. But it's things people do cuz of a GOAL they have. They sacrifice a little fun sometimes, to accomplish a goal.

[Missing_Minds]

Casters cast more damaging spells (meta magic).

So far only bosses and living spells have this. This is not to say that the casters may not have potency items. Dev's have teased about giving dogs "doggy bones of vertigo +6" before.

Lava does more damage (was changed in mod 3 I believe, you could swim in lava with a house P buff before this).

Oh noossss... something was corrected to be just like PnP. I'm waiting for you to try next about how Protection from Energy was really Energy Immunity.

Spells that do not allow for evasion.

Those exist... and? Why do they exist? Because casters got sick of rogues always dodging spells. This happened in PnP so of course it was going to carry over here.

[Missing_Minds]

Name ONE thing you can ONLY get with cash. ONE........I'm waiting.........OH WAIT, FREE TURBINE POINTS......

VIP status count?