really what are the odds.

[twoton]

Just what is the odds of a pally or a monk hitting their smite or ki strike just as double strikes goes off?

[Loki98]

Wouldn't that basically be your double strike % ? Since your smite or ki strike is an attack...

[Iambeastx]

um 10% with zeal...

[SteeleTrueheart]

Currently... about 100%
After they fix it. 10% of the time when you have zeal running.
And about 8% of the time you will get a twf off hand attack as well (triple strike) if you have GTWF.
If you have a monkadin (Pal14/Monk6) that will be:
Double strike 15% of the time and triple strike 12% of the time.

[dunklezhan]

If you have a monkadin (Pal14/Monk6) ...

surely that should be a Paladonk?

*brays*

[twoton]

not talking really percentage as such but what the odds of those two clicking the button for their ki strike or smite at the same time the double strikes procs. Yes I know its a 10% chance for it to proc but whats the odds it would proc at the same time someone decides to click their button for their special attack?

Like would the odds be 10 to 1? 50 to 1? 100 to 1?

[SteeleTrueheart]

not talking really percentage as such but what the odds of those two clicking the button for their ki strike or smite at the same time the double strikes procs. Yes I know its a 10% chance for it to proc but whats the odds it would proc at the same time someone decides to click their button for their special attack?

Like would the odds be 10 to 1? 50 to 1? 100 to 1?

I dont think you understand the process.

When you hit the special attack button the system THEN decides whether that attack spawns a doublestrike. So EVERY time you hit the attack you have a 10% chance to have a doublestrike happen.

If that is too complicated or I am being too wordy, in short the odds are:

10 to 1.

[twoton]

yeah Im a noob took my brain awhile to wrap around this one but out of 100 attacks the chance that you hit a ki strike or smite the same time double strike proced would be 10% chance.

[SolarDawning]

yeah Im a noob took my brain awhile to wrap around this one but out of 100 attacks the chance that you hit a ki strike or smite the same time double strike proced would be 10% chance.

...You still don't get it.
It's not about hitting them at "the same time".
The ki strike/smite is an attack. It has a chance of double-striking.

[TechNoFear]

Smite with 110%/80%

One main hand attack 18%
Two main hand attacks 2%
One main and one offhand 72%
Two main hand and one offhand 8%

Smite with 115%/80%

One main hand attack 17%
Two main hand attacks 3%
One main and one offhand 68%
Two main hand and one offhand 12%

[Neko-kun]

I think what twoton meant was if the doublestrike happens, and you activate an ability on the attack granted by double strike, would it trigger a 'third-strike'? Seeing as you can use combat feats/special attacks later in the attack chain (they don't always have to be the first attack) would this be possible?

[krud]

I think what twoton meant was if the doublestrike happens, and you activate an ability on the attack granted by double strike, would it trigger a 'third-strike'? Seeing as you can use combat feats/special attacks later in the attack chain (they don't always have to be the first attack) would this be possible?

That would depend if there is any data communication going on in between the regular strike and the double strike, which would allow the activation of a smite in between the two events. I doubt it, but maybe it's possible.

[TechNoFear]

I think what twoton meant was if the doublestrike happens, and you activate an ability on the attack granted by double strike, would it trigger a 'third-strike'? Seeing as you can use combat feats/special attacks later in the attack chain (they don't always have to be the first attack) would this be possible?

You can not activate an ability on the attack granted by the double strike, nor on the off hand attack (only on the main hand).

You have a main attack, which may be replaced by a special attack, like a Smite if you push the button. When you push the Smite button the game will wait until make your next Main hand attack (which will be the Smite).

This main hand attack has a percentage chance to generate a second main hand attack (a double strike). If the main hand attack was a 'special', the Double strike will be a 'special'.

The main hand has a percentage chance to generate an Offhand attack (depending on your feats etc). If the main hand attack was a 'special', the Offhand strike will be a 'special'.

This means any time you press Smite you will get 1-3 Smite 'attacks' (currently on live a GTWF always gets 2 Smites). See my post above for the percentage chance of each of the 4 combinations.