Nerf your Nerf Turbine

[rykim]

If you're going to make all these sweeping changes across the board, then why don't you offer/give everyone 2 free feat exchanges so they can keep up with your changes/nerfs to the game. And for two weapon and 2 handed builds, give them 3 so they can take advantage of your changes.

All I'm asking is that you be fair and equitable Turbine. Instead of bleeding us for Turbine Points.

[Rice]

Agreed. For a big change like this, it's only fair.

Respeccing as a whole should be included within the game and not be a TP exclusive thing.

[LadyKallie]

Wish people would just give it a rest. Turbine will do what is best for the game and if that means changing something that some people don't like then so be it. But complaining about it day after day is pointless and makes you look like a child not getting his own way.

[Consumer]

Wish people would just give it a rest. Turbine will do what is best for the game and if that means changing something that some people don't like then so be it. But complaining about it day after day is pointless and makes you look like a child not getting his own way.

Feel free to go away



Most games I've played will either reset a toon for you or will give the player the option when a large change is made. I see no reason why Turbine shouldn't do the same.

[LadyKallie]

How about you don't tell me what to do. I have been around since this game was actually Stormreach before it went F2P. Turbine does what is best for the game. You don't like it then too bad

[MrWizard]

well, major changes do have effects that cause or need respecs at times.

in the old days, you had to retire your toon or reroll (and lose all bound to character gear)..example: batman builds.

We'll just have to see how it goes, but would believe they have something to make us feel better about the cost of any respeccs.

[EustaceTrevelyan]

I agree it would be fair, and would totally love it if everyone got a free LR +6 token, but from a dev standpoint, it would just hasten the day where people find the next crack in the mechanics and leverage it just a little too far.

[Rice]

I agree it would be fair, and would totally love it if everyone got a free LR +6 token, but from a dev standpoint, it would just hasten the day where people find the next crack in the mechanics and leverage it just a little too far.

That's always bound to happen in MMOs, that's just the way it is. They know that. It's inevitable.

[shadosatblackphoenix]

Wish people would just give it a rest. Turbine will do what is best for the game and if that means changing something that some people don't like then so be it. But complaining about it day after day is pointless and makes you look like a child not getting his own way.

I hope you don't apply that logic to all the services you pay for. Otherwise you must get screwed quite often in the real world and just shrug and move on instead of asking for a return/compensation/money back? Wow.

[Wizard_Zero]

Give everyone a free Heart of Wood.

[MrWizard]

Give everyone a free Heart of Wood.

for each affected character

[LadyKallie]

I play the game to have fun not complain about every little thing. That is what games are supposed to be, people having fun.

[Rice]

I play the game to have fun not complain about every little thing. That is what games are supposed to be, people having fun.

Then I suggest you stay away from forums. Forums = people complaining.

[rykim]

Wish people would just give it a rest. Turbine will do what is best for the game and if that means changing something that some people don't like then so be it. But complaining about it day after day is pointless and makes you look like a child not getting his own way.

How many toons do you have that you've worked on for months (or years) raiding and gearing up?

The reason why I'm asking you this is to see if you can see it from another point of view. If you have not worked a lot of toons, then how would you be able to understand the people who have been playing for years?

All I've stated in this post is that I'd like something to even out the destabilizing that Turbine's doing with these changes. Instead of just bitc*in about it like you're implying, I'm asking them to moderate the damage they're doing. It's a proactive suggestion.. not just a bitc* session.

[Kalari]

Fun is important but whats fun for you may not be fun for the next guy. Some people play the game for the social aspects, some to quest in dungeons their own way. And some to power game. No ones fun is the same and thats one of the many beautiful things about ddo. Now you consider your fun important right LadyKallie? I imagine if the game stopped being fun for you youd probably just leave then? Maybe you dont think its wise to invest yourself into a game and take it a little bit seriously. And I wish I could say I was the same. I do take this game seriously at times I enjoy it its a big part of my down time when after a stress filled day I can escape a bit.

With a lot of the changes I am worried about my fun as are others. Why should our worries about the fun we have be null in void because people think that "their fun" is the only way to play ddo? (note not saying your saying that but its the sentiment I am feeling when I read things like just have fun.) who is to say what fun is? To me its a separate personal enjoyment that may not match someone elses and is my own. And right now worrying about builds I actually enjoyed planning, seeing items I spent time farming because I wished to have them become changed for what I feel is no good reason is not fun. I do envy people who can /shrug its just a game at times. I guess it would be nice not to have something I enjoy immensely affect me so. But it does and I do not like a lot of the changes and if my voice can let that be known im going to use it. Id rather not let it fester then just quit leaving behind friends ive come to enjoy seeing and a game which brought me into liking mmos.

[LadyKallie]

Forums are not for complaining. Forums are for asking questions from the whole player base that you can't do in game. I have playing MMOs since 2004, UO, SWG, EQ 1 and 2, Guild Wars, DDO Stormreach, Warhammer, LOTRO and of course WoW. So as you can see I have leveled a lot of toons. I just go with the flow if there are changes. I don't complain because it usually doesn't get you anywhere.

[Kalari]

Forums are not for complaining. Forums are for asking questions from the whole player base that you can't do in game. I have playing MMOs since 2004, UO, SWG, EQ 1 and 2, Guild Wars, DDO Stormreach, Warhammer, LOTRO and of course WoW. So as you can see I have leveled a lot of toons. I just go with the flow if there are changes. I don't complain because it usually doesn't get you anywhere.

Welcome to ddo, and sorry to say this but your wrong, our devs invite our feed back even have dedicated areas outside our general forums which allows anything as long as its not against guidelines. You may have your experience with other mmos but touting off things like "it doesnt matter" shows how little you know about how our game and the way they allow us to voice our opinions work. Not only do they allow us our rants but they allow us to provide feedback even if we are against things. they give us surveys and polls outside these forums as well. So while it may seem to you like what we say doesnt matter, there is a history that says it does, and no matter how much whining it seems like we are allowed to do so until a Mod says otherwise.

[rykim]

Forums are not for complaining. Forums are for asking questions from the whole player base that you can't do in game. I have playing MMOs since 2004, UO, SWG, EQ 1 and 2, Guild Wars, DDO Stormreach, Warhammer, LOTRO and of course WoW. So as you can see I have leveled a lot of toons. I just go with the flow if there are changes. I don't complain because it usually doesn't get you anywhere.

Seriously?

Who made you the forum police? You telling me the player base can't voice their opinions of changes to the game? That we should just bend over and take it? That we just keep paying for a game that we can't voice an opinion about? Come on... Really?

You don't complain cause it doesn't get you any where? Do you enjoy getting pushed around?

BTW I was asking how many high level toons you have in THIS GAME... not some other MMO. Because we ARE discussing DDO aren't we?

As we've been told in many disclaimers.. your game experience may vary....

[Emili]

I play the game to have fun not complain about every little thing. That is what games are supposed to be, people having fun.

For some people the character they build is where the fun is... just sayin'. btw I do not think it fair they neg you for your comment but as you stated the game should be fun and their concern - being thier characters involve - may find it so less fun. I took liberty to correct some of their angst towards your rep - am sure not that it matters to you... but done so from my own piece of mind pos and green again.

btw... I just come from Lam, and can't rightfully tell von i epic run there was much fun, if anything I felt sluggish and in less control of the character for the pace... as compared to said characters in von 1 epic on a live server. I would say I had less fun if not more or less hinged on disappointment. Maybe will play some more with it a while but overall feeling is the game was less then exciting as was my character in comparison to what it feels on a live server. See question be today seems my character be akin driving a ferrari on live server and then on Lammania felt more like a yugo... although they both get you from point A to B sometimes it's the journey and style one be accustommed to and not neccessarily the idea of reaching point B which bears any fun.

[suitepotato]

Turbine will do what is best for the game

Oh, obviously. That's why they drove away thousands of regular monthly subscribers with lack of timely content, content that wasn't what the players asked for, scapegoating the players for the lag, nerfing everything the players like, nerfing adaptations the players make after previous nerfs, and just generally acting like 12 year old bullies with a magnifying glass and an ant farm on a sunny day.

Playing teacher's pet is a game for kids and Forest Gump.