Why don't clerics carry healing wands?

[Jemaniya]

Why is it when a cleric runs out of sp their job is done for the day? Why can't they carry wands and keep on healing?

[Visty]

why dont you buy pots?

pots cost money, wands cost money, its equal

or what about buying a wand for your cleric?

clerics arent there to blow their money on melees which dont even try to take care of themself

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Why is it when a cleric runs out of sp their job is done for the day? Why can't they carry wands and keep on healing?

Why can't you carry wands and pots?

Everyone who can should carry wands. Everyone who can't should carry pots.

If your cleric ran out of juice, could be he was a bad cleric, most likely it was a bad party. If you aren't helping top yourself up, buy your cleric a wand.

And because you are talking wands, I'll assume you are a low level new player. Could be the other person is as well and can't afford unlimited consumables.

[Grimdiegn]

We do but when in a pug with players that have no clue how to mitigate damage and just yell hjeal me, we tend to keep the wands in our pockets.

[Krag]

Why do you take that much damage that cleric runs out of mana?

[Rubiconn]

I have made it a practice to always carry pots or wands(the toons that can use em) to save the clerics sp for the big fights when its important that they dont run out. I was naive to think when I first started playing that all clerics love to blow all their mana on squishy toons in their party. I decided I would build a cleric, how hard can it be to stand in the back of a party and just heal - its a pain, my heart goes out to all healers, they have my deepest respect and admiration. I stopped playing my cleric @ lvl 10 I couldnt take it any more.

To all healers on all server THANK YOU for your dedicated service to all partys.

[MrStinky]

*Grabs Popcorn* Finally some entertainment!!!!

[sultanica]

• PUG leader and primary tank (dwarf lvl 13) in Invaders quest decides out of the blue to get nekid and barefist fight everything. Completely ignored all questions "Why aren't you wearing armor?" and "*** u doing?!" and after 8 resurrections I stopped counting (and resurrecting him), although the second cleric continued to waste mana on him until he too finally gave up. (and yes he's perma squelched)
• People demanding immediate heals during a skirmish/fight. While everyone in the group is valued for their role, if your not the primary tank or DPS dealer, you are not my healing priority during a fight. I will get to you when I have a chance.
• Wands and healing gear can cost mucho plat. I've had maybe a handful of kind puggers offer mana pots or plat to cover expenses after or during a PUG. Even a simple thank you for the heals is nice. I never request either and don't expect it. It is however a nice gesture to keep us Clerics "encouraged" to keep playing and healing.
• It's not uncommon to burn through 200+ wands in a quest or raid. This is especially true when you are the only healer for 11 other people in Von5/Von6.
• One 50 stack of wands from house J is roughly 1.25k pp, so yes it can get expensive; especially for new players starting out.
• Not carrying heal pots is just plain dumb. If your cleric dies, gets lagged or looses connection...
• Not all clerics are built the same. While mine is a pure defensive healbot, there are clerics who like to lay a smackdown and focus on killing stuff.

[D-molisher]

Why is it when a cleric runs out of sp their job is done for the day? Why can't they carry wands and keep on healing?

They costs money & most players dont donate any to the healer = no money for wands.
So if you want the healer to have wands - BUY SOME FOR HIM / HER.
And do buy some healing potions for yourself incase of emergencys.

[thwart]

*Grabs Popcorn* Finally some entertainment!!!!

/agrees with you

[grodon9999]

Why should we spend our money keeping peoples gimpy toons alive? When we're out of SP, drink some pots or use your own wands. keeping yourself alive is YOUR responsibility.

That said I use scrolls all the time so i can stretch SP, I've got a ton of cash on my high-level warriors. The only thing that annoys me is people who invest nothing in their own defense and need constant baby-sitting.

[DoctorWhofan]

Bah, I drop the wands (except for a few ccw ones) as soon as I can cast off Heal scrolls. I bring supplies because it makes idiots who don't bring their own healing either look like idiots in front of the party, or guilt trip them into paying me for healing their idiot bum.

BUT: I also carry them for legit reasons: good party bad luck, overly tough quests, bacjk up plan.

You know, ANYONE can heal themselves with pots/wands or whatever, but I don't trust everyone. I cover everyone's butt, including my own.

[DoctorWhofan]

Why should we spend our money keeping peoples gimpy toons alive? When we're out of SP, drink some pots or use your own wands. keeping yourself alive is YOUR responsibility.

That said I use scrolls all the time so i can stretch SP, I've got a ton of cash on my high-level warriors. The only thing that annoys me is people who invest nothing in their own defense and need constant baby-sitting.

THere is big difference between idiots and gimps. Idiots usually get free rides in my backpack. Yes, they usually play gimpy characters. Some people are jsut gimp. I'd rather take the time to help them fix/reroll the character and finish the quest on a positive note than letting them die. People cna learn from making mistakes. Idiots can't.

[Mr_Ed7]

Your post is an inflamatory generalization.

Some do. Some don't.

Some people like Vanilla, some Chocolate.

I LIKE to carry one as back-up.

Sometimes they do run out ya know....?

[Gyries]

Why is it when a cleric runs out of sp their job is done for the day? Why can't they carry wands and keep on healing?

Most do. Most also learn to stop healing stupid very early too. If you are concerned about the wand supply of a healer in your groups there are a few things you can do.:
1) Make sure that you do not need healing, especially extra healing above and beyond.
2) Be fully or partially responsible for your own healing.
3) Provide the wand, scroll and potion supply that you think the healer needs.

Healers, you should carry a supply of potions, scrolls and wands, just like every other player. It is at your discretion on how to use them best. You should also manage your inventory in such a way as to have room for 5 stones if needed. Knowing when to use the supplies or space in your bag is one distinction of a solid healer. Worst case, if you do not have 5 inventory slots free it means you have some extra loot and you will be ahead for the day if you pretend that you did.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Most do carry wands.

Why can't you carry potions?

And why can'r all the Rgrs and Pals carry wands?

or even better. Why can't you stop getting so beat up that they run out of SP.

For a long time my cleric did not carry wands. But eventually I got high enough level that wands became cheap.
And since then, even on rarely played servers, I do carry a few CLW wands at the very least.

That would be on all my chars that can use them. And those who can't carry whatever potions they can afford.

And I never ask for heals.....ever.
And if I don't get healed I adjust my playstyle.

But on another note. If a cleric or caster of some sort runs out of SP, I do not consider their contribution to the team to be over.
The good ones will have a build and equipment to be able to continue to contribute.

[Shiler]

Bah, I drop the wands (except for a few ccw ones) as soon as I can cast off Heal scrolls. I bring supplies because it makes idiots who don't bring their own healing either look like idiots in front of the party, or guilt trip them into paying me for healing their idiot bum.

BUT: I also carry them for legit reasons: good party bad luck, overly tough quests, bacjk up plan.

You know, ANYONE can heal themselves with pots/wands or whatever, but I don't trust everyone. I cover everyone's butt, including my own.

Same here, Heal scrolls all the way from level when i can use them.
I play hi Ac toon so i dont need healer till level... 16? But if you cant do same then, maybe its time to put a lil play where your mouth is and pay cleric for healing your gimpy toon.

But to be honest. If i run of SP in normal quests it means either I screwed up in SP management - to many spoted healing, not useing scrolls when i could or not useing mass heal where i could.
Or party is crappy.
In first case i chug pot(s), and go. In second i won't move a finger over occasional scroll heal.

And i dont have problem if i have half SP bar at end of quest on which i used 100 heal scrolls just in case something happends.

[unbongwah]

Why don't clerics carry healing wands?

Because you didn't give them one, ya cheapskate.

[Rinnoan]

My cleric and paladin always carry a few csw/ccw wands for emergency situations. I try not to bring them out very much because I tend to be broke.

For the groups that take a ton of unnecessary damage and expect me to supply all wands, I usually only admit to carrying the Eternal wand of cure minor wounds from the Catacombs.

[Frodo_Lives]

Few things will get you gang blasted on the forums like suggesting that someone else should spend their plat to keep you healed and up and running.

Along with many others I don't use wands/scrolls/sp pots when I'm on my healers unless I decide the group is worth it. On normal (non raid) quests up until end game or epic most quests do not need extra consumable healing. So if I run into a situation when it does call for scrolls/wands then I have to take a look at why.

There are only a few character classes that aren't very good at self healing, fighter and barbarian come to mind. Other than that after fights if the cleric is out of sp you can whip your own wands or have other means of healing just as effectively as the cleric.

Lesson is: Don't be a cheap ass SOB and buy your own **** wands.