What is my dex ranger supposed to do in epic now?

[Stanley_Nicholas]

With weighted being nerfed big time, what are dex based characters supposed to do in epic? No point in taking stunning blow even if they can spare the feat (even though they probably can't), since the DC would be too low anyway. So my options are to either TR into a strength build, or farm all the stuff on a different character and pass it to the dex build? Bleh! This nerf sucks a lot of fun out of the game.

[Visty]

or you can continue hitting the mob so it dies on hp damage

[Mellkor]

well you can buy more pots from the store to boost your stats.

[Krag]

earthgrabs... until they are nerfed too. no you get no refunds for you holy icy burst warhammers of weighted.

[Eladiun]

Use grease clickies.

[Peeker]

What was your dex ranger ever going to do in epic. Epic is all about DPS. Regardless of these new changes or not, there are no circumstances where taking a str based fighter or barb wouldn't be better for an epic group than your dex based ranger. Sorry.. the new changes didn't make you an epic piker, you always were one.

[krud]

earthgrab. at least they are cheap to make. you can make 2 for less than one Min2 (in terms of expensive larges).

[Drfirewater79]

TR into a cleric ???

never enough of those and we will need more of them in raids now that dps is cut down considerably

[Gol]

You can carry Heffty's sack for him

edit: argh, dex builds might lack the strength for that, nevermind...

[Kiranselie]

With weighted being nerfed big time, what are dex based characters supposed to do in epic? No point in taking stunning blow even if they can spare the feat (even though they probably can't), since the DC would be too low anyway. So my options are to either TR into a strength build, or farm all the stuff on a different character and pass it to the dex build? Bleh! This nerf sucks a lot of fun out of the game.

Stan, you need to give away all your stuff, delete everyone, come out to alabama and join our monthly pnp games, and play golf in the interim. Its what I've been doing and working out well for me so far

[dragonruler]

Stan, you need to give away all your stuff, delete everyone, come out to alabama and join our monthly pnp games, and play golf in the interim. Its what I've been doing and working out well for me so far

/nod

What he said

[Stanley_Nicholas]

Stan, you need to give away all your stuff, delete everyone, come out to alabama and join our monthly pnp games, and play golf in the interim. Its what I've been doing and working out well for me so far

You moved to Alabama?

Actually that sounds fun, except I'd have to move back to Texas in less than 3 months to go back to school.

[Kiranselie]

You moved to Alabama?

Actually that sounds fun, except I'd have to move back to Texas in less than 3 months to go back to school.

Dude, I've been in Bama the whole time I played DDO, Im just not from here. And 3 months will get you three game sessions ( Friday and Saturday for aprox. 16-18 hours a day). Plus Alabama has some of the best public courses in the country.

[Stanley_Nicholas]

Dude, I've been in Bama the whole time I played DDO, Im just not from here. And 3 months will get you three game sessions ( Friday and Saturday for aprox. 16-18 hours a day). Plus Alabama has some of the best public courses in the country.

Oh I knew you were in Alabama. I thought I was being funny.

[Kiranselie]

Oh I knew you were in Alabama. I thought I was being funny.

oh

[kingfisher]

ok here's the plan:
first complain a lot and then fake-leave, stop your sub, but delete no toons. then create a couple free acounts, come here, complain to everyone about how its not fair that dex-based toons r teh suk, yada yada. waith for nerfgate 6 and vola! they will make everyting gravy for you.

footnote: this will also work for complaints about the core rules of the game, so use your new powers wisely, dont go asking them to make us collect 200 ogre ears ok?

[Stanley_Nicholas]

ok here's the plan:
first complain a lot and then fake-leave, stop your sub, but delete no toons. then create a couple free acounts, come here, complain to everyone about how its not fair that dex-based toons r teh suk, yada yada. waith for nerfgate 6 and vola! they will make everyting gravy for you.

footnote: this will also work for complaints about the core rules of the game, so use your new powers wisely, dont go asking them to make us collect 200 ogre ears ok?

Ha, I think you might be on to something...

[MrWizard]

With weighted being nerfed big time, what are dex based characters supposed to do in epic? No point in taking stunning blow even if they can spare the feat (even though they probably can't), since the DC would be too low anyway. So my options are to either TR into a strength build, or farm all the stuff on a different character and pass it to the dex build? Bleh! This nerf sucks a lot of fun out of the game.

trip works well.

DCs of the mobs are supposed to be lower..

bring in an AC intimitank and just beat them from behind...

[Stanley_Nicholas]

well maybe they need to change that...

Maybe the "Minions" that they talk about will have a reduced AC and resistance to Stat Damage along with their reduced Saves... lotta maybe there huh.

Maybe it'll require some balancing all around

and maybe they'll actually look at the lower dps characters and do something about it

Aesop

Yeah, a whole lot of maybe. I do hope they do something about it though. It's really not good design to leave entire build paths out in the cold for the intended endgame environment. Hopefully they just didn't realize how much a nerf to weighted would impact certain builds, and will do something to remedy the situation quickly. I think it's also a bad idea to make stunning blow near-mandatory for the other (strength based) melees too, but I haven't seen much comment on that from anyone else. And it would be nice if they gave finesse a bit of a boost in the non-epic portions of the game as well.

trip works well.

DCs of the mobs are supposed to be lower..

bring in an AC intimitank and just beat them from behind...

I guess that's another very small option. I'd hate to have to rely on another highly specialized build just so I can be a few notches above useless though. Offhand I only know one true intimitank who runs much epic though, and he usually runs with his guild (which I'm not a member of). I can't expect others to carry a significantly weaker toon along unnecessarily. I want a better option that simply doesn't exist.

[Deathseeker]

How much strength are your really talking between your dex based ranger and a str based ranger? If you started at 8 str, then yeah, that's gonna be rough. But if you went 14 or 16 str, I don't think the difference is going to be enough to go from effective to gimp.

Some of these perceived differences in builds get a bit carried away.

It will be very interesting to see how things play out with AC effectiveness vs epic mobs. If ac has become more important that will change things a bit...