Guild Renown

[Towrn]

So, after figuring out what to do to get renown (so far all i have seen is from treasure bags off dead enemies), I wanted to test some things.

I had a few guildies run a normal kobold assault and I ran an elite coal chamber (btw I LOVE the change you guys made to that quest, SOOOOOOO COOOOOOL).

In kobold assault, they got 200 (in 50 renown increments) renown each for a total of 400.

In coal chamber I got 300 renown (3 50 renown increments and 1 150 renown increment)

Now, I understand you don't want the renown to be too easy to get. So might I suggest dropping the renown you can get from lower level quests to something more like 5-20 renown for each treasure bag that has renown in it?

Otherwise the entire system is borked. You could have a guild of brand new players hit guild level 100 before a guild of people that run elite and epic raids on a daily basis. To me it doesn't seem right, but maybe thats the power gamer in me.

It is a cool system though.

[spyderwolf]

changes? you didnt speak of any changes. now i have to log on and run out afterall.

[Towrn]

changes? you didnt speak of any changes. now i have to log on and run out afterall.

Don't want to be the spoiler guy!!!

[spyderwolf]

i dont mind spoilers. jsut not gonan run the new quests cause i have a friedn i liek running the new stuff with the first time. old quests you can spoil right away!

[spyderwolf]

pm me with the changes then will save me from having to run all the way out

[Daehawk]

In kobold assault, they got 200 (in 50 renown increments) renown each for a total of 400.

In coal chamber I got 300 renown (3 50 renown increments and 1 150 renown increment)

See if there was 2 of you in Coal then it would of been 450 or maybe 500 vs their 2 people for 400.

We ran as a group of three in Delirium earlier farming the chests for the scrolls and pulled 0 renown first run. 600 renown the second run, 50 renown the their run. Plenty of bags, just none of them renown. The 600 one we pulled 2 50's each and then 2 150's. Not everyone gets a 150 bag. I had one bag that was 150 and the ranger had a different bag that was 150. But each 50 bag was the same. And the one run that was only 50 was one that we pulled a token from a chest.

[Sweetsoul86]

Spoil.....spoil I say....did they make coal chamber better for none hoppy toons?

Or does it just look cool?

[Towrn]

See if there was 2 of you in Coal then it would of been 450 or maybe 500 vs their 2 people for 400.

We ran as a group of three in Delirium earlier farming the chests for the scrolls and pulled 0 renown first run. 600 renown the second run, 50 renown the their run. Plenty of bags, just none of them renown. The 600 one we pulled 2 50's each and then 2 150's. Not everyone gets a 150 bag. I had one bag that was 150 and the ranger had a different bag that was 150. But each 50 bag was the same. And the one run that was only 50 was one that we pulled a token from a chest.

I got that, but I still think lower level quests (especially since they seem to drop more treasure bags) should be slightly lower. Maybe not as drastic as 5, but perhaps 25?

[Ikem]

what about smaller guilds that are still very good players, but dont have the people to farm 10000 renown in a day... or week. im just saying that comparing a guild that has 300 people to a guild that has 20 people, the smaller, closer guilds are getting the short straw

[Sleepingcap]

DDOdaily guild just reached level 7 and trust me - the 50 renown per deed is just fine.
If you are into grinding - thats your game.
http://ddo-daily.com/lama-lookout-scoreboard

[maddmatt70]

Say what we get renown for getting treasure bags? Lousy.. I hate picking up stuff off of dead bodies..

[Samadhi]

Say what we get renown for getting treasure bags? Lousy.. I hate picking up stuff off of dead bodies..

Agreed.

[MrWizard]

and do we have to be like 'WoW' to see who grabs it first?

[chadj82371]

Spoil.....spoil I say....did they make coal chamber better for none hoppy toons?

Or does it just look cool?

I think Tolero said something yesterday about their being an update that will make it easier for toons that fall to get back up top. Not sure what it is though.

[Coldin]

and do we have to be like 'WoW' to see who grabs it first?

No. Treasure bags drop for everyone.

[chubbs99]

and do we have to be like 'WoW' to see who grabs it first?

No. Treasure bags drop for everyone.

Well... that answers my questions then If 1 bag spawns for each member of the group (like epic dungeon tokens) then its only the players fault if he doesn't pick them up

[Towrn]

what about smaller guilds that are still very good players, but dont have the people to farm 10000 renown in a day... or week. im just saying that comparing a guild that has 300 people to a guild that has 20 people, the smaller, closer guilds are getting the short straw

I think there should be different ways to get renown.

Possibly shortmanning quests?

Elite difficulty has a higher chance to drop renown?

Perhaps random renown in tucked away places in quests?

Higher chance of renown for completing optionals?

Edit: Perhaps Raid bosses can start dropping random treasure bags were renown can be collected? Maybe this renown could be placed at 1200 renown or 600 renown and split among the guilds represented in the raid? For example: 5 people from guild A, 3 people from guild B and 2 people from guild C and D. All guild would get 100 per person for a total of Guild A - 500, Guild B - 300 Guild C and D - 200.

EDIT: A guildie just had a decent idea, give equal renown for all quests based on their favor. Maybe a one time bonus the first time you run the difficulty?

Any one else have some ideas that could help all guilds, big or small?

[Towrn]

DDOdaily guild just reached level 7 and trust me - the 50 renown per deed is just fine.
If you are into grinding - thats your game.
http://ddo-daily.com/lama-lookout-scoreboard

I saw your LFM up and was glad someone else was really testing the system out.

I'm just curious, what quests were you running? Didn't look at that part

[Sleepingcap]

I saw your LFM up and was glad someone else was really testing the system out.

I'm just curious, what quests were you running? Didn't look at that part

Butcher's Path is our main quest - whenever we get bored we go around doing some stupid quest but end up realizing that we are just wasting time getting no renown and return to our sweet kobolds in the sewers.

Also, I completed a little overview of the Guild Renown. Based on my experience and experiments.

http://ddo-daily.com/lama-lookoutguild-renown

[ArichValtrahn]

Say what we get renown for getting treasure bags? Lousy.. I hate picking up stuff off of dead bodies..

Agreed.

I dont pick up treasure bags because 90% of that stuff is worthless and it just clogs up my inventory.