Quote Originally Posted by mboger View Post
In case people aren't feverishly refreshing all the other monk threads, a dev has finally broken the code of silence on monks in this thread. It's not the answer we were looking for, but at least a dev has finally acknowledged that we think Shintao sucks. I guess that's something.
for them who just want to read it and are not in the other thread

Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
We'll be watching how things play out. Like I mentioned in the PM, it's not supposed to be easy getting all of the enhancements you might want, some sacrifices are necessary - especially as the PrE's for a class start rolling in.

Paladins are in a similar situation as Monks, but I'd like to see the day when *everyone* is having difficulty deciding which enhancements to take.

Regarding the Shintao Monk: The Protection from Evil effect was intended to count as a "light" strike. The PrE was intended to make it much easier to drop multiple Light finishers in rapid succession, since previously you were limited to Fists of Light. (You could do Earth-Smite-Earth-Finisher-Water-Banish-Water-Finisher-etc., instead of having to wait several seconds between each one.)

The DR bypass is a core feature of the PrE as well, making it easier to fight certain outsiders. We put Byeshk at tier I and Cold Iron at tier II because of the flavor of the class - aberrations like Mind Flayers and chaotic evil demons seemed appropriate for the Shintao Monk, who is supposed to be the one that leads the fight against the darkness by example, inspiring those around it.

In a future update, we're considering replacing the Protection from Evil clicky with some either sort of an aura similar to a Paladin or some sort of PBAOE aura-style buffs.
all it proved to me is that the dev's dont really understand what the issues are with shintao ... they dont understand the reasons why role playing that costs AP is not wanted in PRE's that drastically effect the way we build our enhancment lines

and short of every monk going dark and no one taking shintao they are not going to change anything about the class as is ...

in the future considering replacing PFE with a PBaoe effect while would increase its usefulness ... still doesnt make it better then the spell on a scroll cause the spell on a scroll lasts even if you dont ...

but whatever...

i am done ranting i got the reply i wanted even though it didnt say anything i wanted to hear ...

pretty much confirmed that usefulness isnt all that important to people who develop classes and prestige in this game ...

also pretty much confirmed that i wont be renewing my sub ...