Epic SoS Nerfed to +10 5d6/x3

[Monkey_Archer]

Maybe make the base damage even higher (8d6 or so) or give it dr bypassing abilities or more and better augment slots.

I' rather see it as +6, 3D6 18-20x4 myself.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Having one weapon that was "must have" is not a good thing. It's a good nerf, and more gentle than I would have expected.

[Do'Urden]

It's still something like 1000 spell points. To say people won't grind it out and feel that it's still worth it is a little disingenuous. Grind? Maybe. That's the game, though.

On average it's a 500SP clickie with the change (all 3 charges). That's 1x Concentrated Major Mnemonic (Store) Pot for the record. To say it's 1000SP is disingenuous. The player base will let Turbine know if it's worth it, and the vast majority of the Level 20 gaming population has ruled on Epic Desert already without the nerfs.

[Sweyn]

It's a good nerf, and more gentle than I would have expected.

More gentle? You thought it would have been nerfed more? I mean now the Sword only does 3d6 +5 More damage than the lvl 10 version. (Crits will be higher but still) That's hardly "Epic" to me....

[Artagon]

You forgot the +1 to crit range over the lvl 10 version too..

oh and that it's not just +5 dmg, but also +5 to hit

[Stamp3de]

You forgot the +1 to crit range over the lvl 10 version too..

New epic SoS and non epic both have same crit range...

[Sweyn]

You forgot the +1 to crit range over the lvl 10 version too..

oh and that it's not just +5 dmg, but also +5 to hit

Show me where the lvl 10 version has less crit range.

And most geared out toon's don't need +5 tohit

[JOTMON]

Sword of Shadows: Increase base damage to 5d6. Decrease Critical Multiplier to x3.


Hmm ESOS min level 20 with no DR bypass vs a greataxe.....
Looks like time to go back to min2 Greataxes at least that will bypass DR and still do decent damage.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

More gentle? You thought it would have been nerfed more? I mean now the Sword only does 3d6 +5 More damage than the lvl 10 version. (Crits will be higher but still) That's hardly "Epic" to me....

Sounds epic to me. I would have expected them to keep or lower the base damage, not increase it.

[Cetus]

I will try to do my best to refrain from vulgarity otherwise I'll get probably get a form ban.

But *** is this bull****.

You make us lose a multiplier, add us a crummy d6 damage- and don't even allow an additinal red augment slot to allow it to bypass dr?

This weapon is USELESS now for a fighter who needs to specialize in greatswords in terms of front number damage who has used greataxes beforehand. That extra mutiplier allowed it to be more damaging against DR mobs without bypassing their reduction thus being an extremely useful weapon. Even when u do elite, when the DR gets too high and the fortification is 50% or higher the weapon becomes useless. We were fine with that limitation.

Now, you remove glancing blows and NOW you nerf an entire multiplier on a weapon that made it shine.

I actually am in the process of Tr'ing monk to get an extra 4 damage on my crits per TR, now even that is nerfed. I hope you enjoyed you $$.

Unbelievable. Thanks for playing folks- but you have just been smacked across the face.

[JOTMON]

Ouch..

Ring of Spell Storing: SP reduced to ""Greater Mnemonic"" (55 - 300 sp).

Now taking an epic almost usefull item to ... meh....

[ColinQ]

Having one weapon that was "must have" is not a good thing.

Cough* Min2 GA Cough*

or is that going to get nerfed too?

[Artagon]

New epic SoS and non epic both have same crit range...

Color me sheepish, I thought the original was 19-20

[Angelus_dead]

Cough* Min2 GA Cough*

Min2 was never "one" weapon.

[landona54]

dumb move.....not happy rethinking this game....u will lose players with this move. I have worked too hard for this weapon to have this happen. I may be one of the players lost....might want to see how much it costs me to play this game every month.

[Aspenor]

On average it's a 500SP clickie with the change (all 3 charges). That's 1x Concentrated Major Mnemonic (Store) Pot for the record. To say it's 1000SP is disingenuous. The player base will let Turbine know if it's worth it, and the vast majority of the Level 20 gaming population has ruled on Epic Desert already without the nerfs.

No matter how much SP it is, it's still useful and people will still seek to obtain one.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Cough* Min2 GA Cough*

or is that going to get nerfed too?

It already did.

And it wasn't the only choice. Some people choose to go other routes because they like them and they are still competitive, like a LitII weapon. Or even if they stuck to min II, GS, Falc, or maul options. And of course there are multiple ways to build MinIIs that do different things.

[Cetus]

dumb move.....not happy rethinking this game....u will lose players with this move. I have worked too hard for this weapon to have this happen. I may be one of the players lost....might want to see how much it costs me to play this game every month.

Exactly.

do NOT let this go live, this will suck the fun out of playing their character for loads of people. You should hear the number of annoyed people I am discussing this with right now.

[Cetus]

This weapon also gave kensai fighters a fighting chance at matching barb dps (watch my video of epic dragon) Now that I see this, after 4+ years of playing this game..I was never so disgusted with it- especially midway through TR'ing.

If you guys are thinkig its overpowered you should maybe work on being smarter on your decisions BEFORE releasing things like this to us. OR better yet, make other weapons par up- DONT take away our pride and glory in acquiring EPIC items.

[Krag]

Looks like they removed the only two epic items and replaced it with buch of good looking ****.