Epic SoS Nerfed to +10 5d6/x3

[Elfvyra]

If it upsets Shade, I'm all for it, nerf it to oblivion

Lol, you made me laugh. +1 for you

[Monkey_Archer]

A pass was made on many epic items. Full release notes will be up tomorrow (I think?), but I figure I'd post this list tonight:

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Very nice changes... some of those might actually be worth using now

[totmacher]

that is kind of awesome Eladrin... although scrolls/shards/seals drop in way too low of a ratio relative to dragon loot to make any of this stuff really attainable still...

[Shade]

Lol, you made me laugh. +1 for you

My characters name is Axer.. Not sworder (well yea i got that one too heh, but not my main)

So it doesn't upset me nearly as much as the THF nerf does.

But it's really not about me. The players you might lose for such heavy nerfs all at once turbine, thats what you need to consider. Is it worth it?

[Alintalkin]

• The following items from the Catacombs adventure pack have been modified. Newly generated items will have the following properties:
  
  • Blade of Inquisition: Add Lesser Undead Bane.
  • Dagger of Inquisition: Add Lesser Undead Bane.
  • Eternal Rest: Add Lesser Undead Bane.
  • Gerard Dryden's Mace: Once again Undead Bane instead of Lesser Undead Bane. Now made of bone. Now Bound to Account on Equip. (Existing Gerard Dryden's Maces will also now be made of bone, including very old versions.)
  • Guidance: Add Holy.
  • Morningstar of the Heretic: Add Bodyfeeder.
    
  • Pillar of Light: Add Radiance II.

Wait hold on a minute- your adding radiance II to a ML:2 staff ? I must be imagining things...

Edit: So might as well post on topic. I find it unfair that THF have nerfed when moving and then the ESOS gets a major hit. This is a little uncalled for no?

Double edit: Never mind the above except for the edit. I didn't realize that it was Radiance 2, the light spell dmg increase, thought it was the GS Radiance 2 mod. Thanks to Garth for pointing out the obvious. Man dumb moment on my part lol.

[Lithic]

Wait hold on a minute- your adding radiance II to a ML:2 staff ? I must be imagining things...

Its on a lvl 2 staff that only crits on a 20. A nice little item for acrobats that want to stay in character right from the start, but doubtfull that it makes it overpowered. Rad2 only adds about 0.7damage per hit until you get imp. crit, then its 1.4ish damage per hit.


Now if it was lightning strike... That would be a different story.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Wait hold on a minute- your adding radiance II to a ML:2 staff ? I must be imagining things...

I would guess this is referring to Radiance II - increase the damage of your second or lower level light spells by 20%.

Garth

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Epic SoS Nerfed to +10 5d6/x3

Kambuk

at least this means more dps against heavy fort mobs such as elementals and zombies. I always thought my epic SoS was a little underpowered against those. woot!

Garth

[Alintalkin]

I would guess this is referring to Radiance II - increase the damage of your second or lower level light spells by 20%.

Garth

Ah ok when I saw Rad 2 I was thinking GS effect for a second. This makes much more sense.

[Do'Urden]

The following Epic items have been modified. Existing versions have been retroactively changed, there is no additional benefit to running them through the Altar of Epic Rituals with dungeon tokens:

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  • Ring of Spell Storing: SP heal reduced to ""Greater Mnemonic"" (55 - 300 sp).

Wow...do you have any idea how hard it was to get in the first place and how few people were already trying to get it with the current stats?

[Aspenor]

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Wow...do you have any idea how hard it was to get in the first place and how few people were already trying to get it with the current stats?

Pretty much every caster or healer was trying to get one. They will continue to do so.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Ah ok when I saw Rad 2 I was thinking GS effect for a second. This makes much more sense.

lol - the same thought crossed my mind too, but the spell boosting effect makes more sense I suppose... but maybe it is the tier 3 shroud effect! hmm.

Garth

[Delacroix21]

They needed to boost the other epic weapons not nerf SoS.

So Xuum does more dps now against non fire immune targets?

Exactly!


Epic SoS was the ONLY Epic that was... well... EPIC! The rest were poorly itemized Junk!

[Angelus_dead]

[*] Chimera's Crown: +4 Natural Armor upgraded to +5 Natural Armor. Add Minor Greater Dragonmark Enhancement. Add Colorless Augment Slot.

So one Sentinels epic item changed, but the kukri and rapier were still left as pointless and inferior to ML 12 greensteel... maybe next patch!

[*] Hammer of Life: Upgrade skill bonuses to +20. Add Good alignment to damage. Add Disruption Guard. Add Greater Disruption.

Having a bonus attacking undead is similar to my old suggestion for that item (although it was bane). It's a little sad to see Greater Disruption though, as it is inferior to regular Disruption weapons.

[*] Unkor's Cleaver: Add Limbchopper. Add Bleed. Add Eat Jerky 1/day. Under no circumstances should one ask where the jerky comes from.

Limbchopper for things immune to vorpal huh? I wonder if Epic Ward stops Limbchopper.

[*] Wolf Whistle: Upgrade skill bonuses to +15. Replace Charm Canine with Summon Epic Thaarak Hound 1x/day.

Even if the pet isn't useful it'll be fun to see.

[*] Zephyr: Critical Threat Range upgraded to 18-20. Upgrade Colorless Augment Slot to Red Augment Slot.

Crits like a rapier/kukri, eh? Still not enough to make it worth using, as gaining dex damage doesn't make up for losing str damage and also losing things like Holy Shocking Burst Shocking Blast Lightning Strike that you could be using instead.

[*]The following items from the Catacombs adventure pack have been modified. Newly generated items will have the following properties:

Changing named items to make the Catacombs pack more attractive? Good! Why not also do that to the Three Barrel Cove pack?

[Nomical]

Cheers on those epic item changes - I'm very impressed!

[Do'Urden]

Pretty much every caster or healer was trying to get one. They will continue to do so.

Not at all true...unless you're talking about the 1% subset of the Level 20 population that actually runs Epic Desert on a routine basis. I've never even SEEN the Shard or the Seal in hundreds of runs. A 3x Greater Mnemonic clickie is hardly worth the grind unless they also make SIGNIFICANT changes to Epic beyond those already announced.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

I don't think that you should nerf epic SoS, but if you do, not like this.
It still has to be the wepon people wanted and grinded for.
Maybe make the base damage even higher (8d6 or so) or give it dr bypassing abilities or more and better augment slots.

Otherwize people will stop looking for it. You should make sure that there is still incenetive to grind for it. That is all.

[Aspenor]

Not at all true...unless you're talking about the 1% subset of the Level 20 population that actually runs Epic Desert on a routine basis. I've never even SEEN the Shard or the Seal in hundreds of runs. A 3x Greater Mnemonic clickie is hardly worth the grind unless they also make SIGNIFICANT changes to Epic beyond those already announced.

It's still something like 1000 spell points. To say people won't grind it out and feel that it's still worth it is a little disingenuous. Grind? Maybe. That's the game, though.

[bobbryan2]

Not at all true...unless you're talking about the 1% subset of the Level 20 population that actually runs Epic Desert on a routine basis. I've never even SEEN the Shard or the Seal in hundreds of runs. A 3x Greater Mnemonic clickie is hardly worth the grind unless they also make SIGNIFICANT changes to Epic beyond those already announced.

Well... the item was overpowered...

But yes.... the entirety of the epic desert loot system needs to be rebuilt.

[Aspenor]

Well... the item was overpowered...

But yes.... the entirety of the epic desert loot system needs to be rebuilt.

True on both accounts.

I would be lying if, when I saw the original epic SSR, that my jaw didn't hit my desk in disbelief.