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    Default Epic SoS Nerfed to +10 5d6/x3

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    was to expect
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    They needed to boost the other epic weapons not nerf SoS.

    So Xuum does more dps now against non fire immune targets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyr View Post
    They needed to boost the other epic weapons not nerf SoS.

    So Xuum does more dps now against non fire immune targets?
    etnering the powercreep is bad, so it was the right thing to do

    the same thing applies to why twf got nerfed and not just thf buffed

    and its not said that xuum didnt change either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    etnering the powercreep is bad, so it was the right thing to do

    the same thing applies to why twf got nerfed and not just thf buffed

    and its not said that xuum didnt change either
    thf was nerfed to, and not just the sword
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSteel View Post
    thf was nerfed to, and not just the sword
    and yet noone complains about that, only about the twf nerf and that then eSoS makes thf better

    now it might be balanced
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    give it two red slots if its going to lose a crit multiplier
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    That was faster and harsher than I have anticipated.
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    So now people won't b-line for sos. That just = play diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyr View Post
    They needed to boost the other epic weapons not nerf SoS.

    So Xuum does more dps now against non fire immune targets?
    Exactly!


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    I don't think that you should nerf epic SoS, but if you do, not like this.
    It still has to be the wepon people wanted and grinded for.
    Maybe make the base damage even higher (8d6 or so) or give it dr bypassing abilities or more and better augment slots.

    Otherwize people will stop looking for it. You should make sure that there is still incenetive to grind for it. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDownTheHouse View Post
    Maybe make the base damage even higher (8d6 or so) or give it dr bypassing abilities or more and better augment slots.
    I' rather see it as +6, 3D6 18-20x4 myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kambuk2 View Post
    Epic SoS Nerfed to +10 5d6/x3

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    at least this means more dps against heavy fort mobs such as elementals and zombies. I always thought my epic SoS was a little underpowered against those. woot!

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    I like most of those changes, but the Epic Spellstoring Ring - ouch!

    I wasn't close to having it made, I'm still going to try to make it, but that's a big nerf.
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    SS ring nerfed about 50%? Really? Update 5 looks like a giant disappointment. I'm now actually considering canceling my sub, for the first time since I started playing during head start. Why bother paying if I'm never going to log in anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley_Nicholas View Post
    SS ring nerfed about 50%? Really? Update 5 looks like a giant disappointment. I'm now actually considering canceling my sub, for the first time since I started playing during head start. Why bother paying if I'm never going to log in anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiranselie View Post
    Hi Stan! Its very liberating, give it a test run before you fully commit like i did
    I logged on once about a week ago just to collect expired auction stuff from my mailboxes. It turned out I was too late - every message/item in all my characters' mailboxes had expired and been deleted.
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    Just throw metalline on it and keep the adamantine hardness/durability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley_Nicholas View Post
    I logged on once about a week ago just to collect expired auction stuff from my mailboxes. It turned out I was too late - every message/item in all my characters' mailboxes had expired and been deleted.
    That is a good point. I have a bunch of auctions sitting there as well because I can't even motivate myself to log in for routine shrouds after the TWF gimping. And now this?

    Well I can't say I didn't see this coming. With all the talk of Premium being an 'upgrade' I guess they figured they wouldn't lose any money by doing this since they already had it from all the people that believed this game would continue to deliver for over a year after. And that's precisely why I stayed monthly sub.

    I am surprised they gimped out the epic ss ring though. From 315-1800 (1,057.5) to 165-900 (532.5). Nearly -50%. But I guess even the rarest epic in the game isn't good enough to be worth not needing you to buy more store pots...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    By all means, show me the 5d6+10 "any old" greataxe that makes the ESoS look so ordinary now.

    The sword needed nerfing, it needed nerfing every since they leaked the details before VoN went epic. There were long threads about how it was ridiculously over the top. And it was. Now it will be slightly less so, yes...SLIGHTLY less so. It's still a crushingly powerful weapon.

    82.5 average damage on a crit. That's just the base weapon. Not even including strength, rage, weapon spec, kensai, seeker, etc. Just adding a Bloodstone and the damage goes to 100.5...and with a threat range of 15-20 with Imp Crit: Slash.
    Completely basic +5 Greensteel Greataxe: 3d6+5.

    Down by 2d6+5, average 12 (36 on a crit).

    So let's say the Greensteel is a tier 2 pos/pos.

    In auto crit situations you get average 7 from the holy, average 3.5 from the pure good, and average 14 from the holy burst.

    ...Wait what the [censored], epic sos only does 10.5 more damage than a tier 2 GS in auto crit situations?

    Total cost of GS tier 2: 1 Large Scale (for the blank).
    Total cost of Epic SoS: 3 Large Scales for the scroll alone, lots and lots of grinding or bounty posting for the other parts.

    Epic Failure of Epic SoS: Over 9,000!!!

    (If you compare to a Min 2, the gap is smaller. If you compare to a Lit 2, which is a better trash mob weapon anyways it will probably do more damage now.)
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    Awesome! If this goes live, add another multi sub'd player to the list of no sub for you.
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