TWF Ranger

[tigarshadowen]

Im new to ddo, but i played dnd $ adnd for years, and would like some feedback on my ranger build, this is without any equipment

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Iwanttostrip Shadowen
Level 20 Chaotic Good Human Female
(1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 272
Spell Points: 225 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 6

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 21                   22
Dexterity            14                 14                   18
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         12                 12                   12
Wisdom               10                 10                   10
Charisma              8                  8                    8

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               6                  8                    8
Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
Concentration         2                  2                    2
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
Disable Device        5                 24                   30
Haggle               -1                 -1                   -1
Heal                  0                  0                    0
Hide                  6                  8                    8
Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
Jump                  7                 10                   10
Listen                0                  0                    0
Move Silently         6                  8                    8
Open Lock             6                 25                   28
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                5                 24                   26
Spot                  4                 23                   25
Swim                  3                  6                    6
Tumble                6                  8                    8
Use Magic Device      3                 22                   22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Nimble Fingers
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Search I
Enhancement: Ranger Spot I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Human Versatility II


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Search II
Enhancement: Ranger Spot II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I


Level 11 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 13 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III


Level 14 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Dexterity I


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I


Level 17 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Chaotic Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Disable Device
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV


Level 19 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense III
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II

[Silvershaper]

Looks good over all.

I'd go True Neutral to reduce incoming damage. And take Toughness instead of Nimble Fingers.

For favoured enemies, I'd get:
Undead, Evil Outsider, Giant, Construct

Most Chaotic Outsiders are also Evil Outsiders, and you can't get double bonus anyway. You'll meet Undead from the very start, and taking Giant just before Gianthold will mean a lot. Constructs is nice to have for golems and portals, but Elemental is also a viable choice for the last FE. The rest are either not so commonly met or dies too fast for it to matter.

If you have 2500 TP, you should look for the +2 Supreme Tome from the DDO Store. You might not be able to buy it before you actually get to lvl 7, which is the minimum lvl to eat it anyway.

[tigarshadowen]

Thx ill keep in mind the changes you suggest.

[unbongwah]

Looks solid enough; compare to tihocan's Tempest. A few suggestions:

- I would drop Nimble Fingers and take Toughness at 1st level. Likewise I would drop SF Disable; you don't really need the boost to your trap skills. I think Power Attack and Extend Spell (or maybe SF UMD) are better choices.
- True Neutral has two big advantages: renders you immune to a lot of alignment-based (i.e., evil / lawful / chaotic) damage; and lets you use Stability items (+ to AC & saves). It's a good alignment choice for builds with high UMD and don't require a lawful alignment (i.e., no monk or paladin levels) like yours, because UMD will let you equip race-/alignment-restricted items once it's high enough.
- For FEs I would take Giant before Evil Outsider, because it includes ogres & trolls which you fight sooner than most evil outsiders.

[DelScorcho]

Some comments. You may regret not having base Dex higher if the devs introduce a Superior Two Weapon Fighting feat that requires a base of 19. You may want to drop wisdom down to a base 8, as a +6 item will give you the ability to cast all ranger spells and place that into con (15). With greater human adaptability con instead of Dex, you'll even up the stat and add 20 hitpoints. Toughness should be mandatory on a ranger. You give up 2 hitpoints per level versus fighters and Pallys and 4 per level versus barbs. As a human, you'll get 3 racial toughness enhancements, and one for fighter 1. More hitpoints means more survivability for your character.

I'd take Rogue at 1, and Fighter at 8. You take Tempest 1 way too late. Really there are minimal enhancement requirement for the PrC; I would argue that no other enhancement is as valuable as the 4 you pay for tempest 1, so you should take it at level 7. To maximize skill points, you should eat a +2 int tome at 7.

[tigarshadowen]

This is my second go at this character. I currently have him up to lvl 11 and am loving him for the most part, ive taken into account the suggestions made on my last try and added them in. I left wis at 12 for a little higher will save and dc. I made cha 10 so i didnt take a penalty for umd, since im f2p i wasnt sure the availability for equip for the character so it is what it is. If there is anymore suggestions let me know.

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Twfhuman rngrog
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 272
Spell Points: 252 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 16
Will: 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             14                 19                   20
Dexterity            13                 13                   16
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         13                 13                   13
Wisdom               12                 12                   13
Charisma             10                 10                   10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    16
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         4                     4
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device        5                    24
Haggle                4                     4
Heal                  1                     1
Hide                  1                     3
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                     9
Listen                1                     1
Move Silently         1                     3
Open Lock             5                    16
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                    25
Spot                  5                    23
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                5                     7
Use Magic Device      4                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Search I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Ranger Search II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 9 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I


Level 10 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I


Level 17 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense III


Level 18 (Ranger)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Enhancement: Human Versatility III


Level 19 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II


Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III