Quote Originally Posted by Cyr View Post
Tempest 1 does not give you two feats for free. Ranger 6 does. Tempest 1 gives you a 10% increase in your off hand proc rate now.
That's exactly what I said. Tespest I splash and Ranger 6 splash are interchangable. Show me a multiclass build that has Ranger 6 and ISN'T a Tempest and I'll entertain the notion that my wording was wrong.
Quote Originally Posted by zed1 View Post
I've been compiling a mental list of "winners and losers" of this change. Well... mostly ranking the losers. While Tempest I still has it's merits, you have to put the Tempest I splash builds at the top of the loser list. Everyone took it for the 10% alacrity, and the rest was just icing on the cake. Now that most of the cake is gone, I predict that we will see far fewer of these builds.
Yes, but it was OP as a Tier I PrE anyway, which is precisely why so many people took it. I'm not saying it isn't losing anything, but it's losses now put it about where it should be power-wise, as far as I'm concerned.