People who insist that a certain race or class are squishy are not very experienced or talented players. Squishy is a play style. Don't listen to those posers. Decide what you want and learn how to build and play the toon that fits your mold.
Now, having said that, most new players need lot's of hitpoints with their new arcane casters. So, be sure you have what it takes to play or learn to play a toon with other than super high hit points.
Choose a Drow if you want the absolute highest possible spell DC. No other race can do this and it is good goal. If you go that route,
Intelligence: it is almost always best to max your intelligence as a wizard.
Constitution: Setting your con higher than 12 will be really inefficient with your build points. The extra 20 hitpoints at cap level won't really matter. 14 is max for a Drow at start, so consider this move carefully.
Strength: You don't need strength higher than 8. You can buff strength many ways and spells that sap strength wear off quickly. Only place points here if you have a specific reason.
Dexterity: You can neglect this stat and still have high reflex saves with a feat. However, if want to use certain good skills well that are Dex related then you will need points here. For example, move silent, balance, and (traps and locks if you go rogue). Plus some few saves are actual dex saves.
Wisdom: This stat for the most part can be neglected, however, a good will save can sometimes mean the difference between life and death. You can kill bad guys or heal yourself while held.
Charisma: You can't have everything and if you don't plan on a specific use for charisma, then don't spend points here.
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Thread: Drow Build Request
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05-28-2010, 06:03 PM #21Community Member
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05-28-2010, 06:10 PM #22Community Member
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Based on what you said above, have you reviewed the build I posted? I do not believe it would make too much of a difference to move 2 points from STR (leaving it at 8) to DEX, increasing it from 10 to 12 (and giving it a +1 modifier).
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Originally Posted by macubrae
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05-28-2010, 10:40 PM #23Community Member
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As far as the stat point distribution goes on the build you posted, it looks good, to me.
The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory. - Sun Tzu
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05-29-2010, 01:42 AM #24Community Member
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Looks great! I'd actually consider this one tough. He's not bad build as far as I can see. You might jigger the enhancements around while you level, sometimes more spell power is going to be more important than failing a trap. You might be able to go without the concentration bonus, but idk. Originally Posted by sacredguyver
My only advice, and it's a little unorthodox, is that you may want to only go with a 19 in that major stat (or a 17 when building other "maximum" toons).
Why? Because getting that 18 (or 20 in the case of the drow) is so expensive! You can potentially save points by going with the 19 in this case, and you could even dump them into strength and two handed melee fairly well like warforged do at high levels. I've honestly seen warforged pure sorcerer's running around with greensteel great axe, because with a divine power clicky and fully buffed you can still hit just about everything with a strength of 14.
This is just food for thought. Min maxing is min maxing, you do it anyway you like.
By the way, you are using an old version of the character generator if I'm not mistaken? Take a look for the updated one, it might be a bit better overall to work with.
Tinyelvis, if you are trying to insult me it comes off as really awkward.
I mean, when you go through and try to show how you would go about building this toon, you pretty much flat out mention that a higher con than 12 is incredibly expensive and that charisma would be a dump stat for a wizard, while the drow already "wastes" points on charisma.
No one can avoid everything. The more critical and higher level content has even more unavoidable times. Building for survivability (and evasion does help with that OP, this is not a terrible choice) is always recommended. Why? Let's just say dying in a non critical situation, some low level quest, one death = exp loss. That's a minimal reason, but that can be enough. If you want to be an asset to your group, you will always try to live. If that means saves and hit points, class features like evasion and slippery mind, or save feats like insightful reflex or force of personality, you make these choices to be there. To play instead of end up in someone's backpack.Last edited by donotdirect1; 05-29-2010 at 01:44 AM.
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05-29-2010, 10:04 AM #25Community Member
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I'm using v3.34, which is the most recent version listed on the website.
General consensus (here and on my guild forum) is that the build, as is, would work fairly well, despite everyone having opinions on very small changes (which would probably fit their playstyle better than it would mine).
I'll give it a go, and if something goes wrong, I'll edit and post here. No sense making a build without looking for ways to improve it (even more so when Update 5 comes out). Originally Posted by macubrae
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06-01-2010, 10:35 PM #26Community Member
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Stats look good.
Skillpoints...
You'll want at least one point in tumble just to unlock the ability to tumble on certain puzzles. Maybe take a point from hide for it at the beginning.
Balance is also very important, it's difficult to cast spells when you're knocked down. (Enemy cometfalls, surprise cats, etc.) If you eat a +2 int tome at lvl7 it'll give you one extra point from lvl8 on, you could put all that into Balance.
Feats:
On a Drow you already have better DCs out of the gate however if you choose a spell school instead of mental toughness you'd have even MORE DCs in that school.
Necromancy is useful and fun to specialize in even if you're not going for Pale Master.
Enchantment is fun, make things dance then hit them where it hurts, or make them fight for you.
Conjuration will make your webs stick better in Amrath, causing a lot less damage to the party.Please split the class forums into REAL subcategories this is a jumbled mess.
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