this is my plan for for a good solo char which has good dps, I'm vip but no 32 point builds ( which is why I when drow) how can I improve it please?Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34 DDO Character Planner Home Page c Level 20 Chaotic Good Drow Male (12 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) Hit Points: 322 Spell Points: 30 BAB: 19\19\24\29\29 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 17 Will: 5 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 16 21 22 Dexterity 16 17 20 Constitution 14 14 14 Intelligence 12 12 12 Wisdom 8 8 8 Charisma 10 10 10 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 7 10 10 Bluff 0 0 2 Concentration 2 2 4 Diplomacy 0 0 2 Disable Device 5 15 16 Haggle 0 0 0 Heal -1 -1 -1 Hide 7 16 16 Intimidate 0 0 2 Jump 7 11 11 Listen -1 -1 1 Move Silently 7 16 16 Open Lock 7 19 20 Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair 1 1 1 Search 5 18 24 Spot 3 10 16 Swim 3 6 6 Tumble n/a n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a Level 1 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Level 2 (Rogue) Level 3 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Selected) Mobility Level 4 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Level 5 (Ranger) Level 6 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Level 7 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct Level 8 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 10 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons Level 11 (Fighter) Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons Level 13 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I Enhancement: Elven Perception I Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 14 (Fighter) Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II Enhancement: Elven Perception II Enhancement: Elven Perception III Enhancement: Elven Perception IV Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes II Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes III Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes IV Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Kensei Rapier Mastery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons Enhancement: Fighter Rapier Specialization I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 17 (Fighter) Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I Level 18 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Great Fortitude Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV Level 19 (Fighter) Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II Enhancement: Kensei Rapier Mastery II Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
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Thread: 12/6/2 fighter/ranger/rouge?
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05-27-2010, 05:32 AM #1Community Member
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12/6/2 fighter/ranger/rouge?
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05-27-2010, 05:52 AM #2Community Member
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if you don't invest full into disable device and search you can aswell don't skill it at all. and if you don't have search and spot you don't need the enhancements.
few skillpoints are kind of a downside for fighters.
drow don't have too many synergies with the brute classes anyway (except for paladins maybe).Thelanis - Inferus Sus
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05-27-2010, 06:22 AM #3Community Member
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What?
Originally Posted by blitzschlag
You can get most traps done with barely any points into disable, as the focus is DPS traps are on the side anyway.
Drop elven perception and keen eyes and pick up some more Fighter strength and sneak attack enhancements.
Lvl 18 feats are useless, swap for quickdraw and another toughness feat.
Change FE: construct to FE: Evil outsider
Take points of of move silently and hide and put into UMD and balance.
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I personally think you would be happier with Human and taking Khopesh.
Also I would look into the "Monster" build. It has what you are after...just laid out really nicely for you."Hireling" and "Hjealer"
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05-27-2010, 06:36 AM #6Community Member
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stop spreading misinformation. as a lvl 12 rogue you need full ranks in search + 13 search gear to find the traps in maze of madness elite (just an example). on lvl 15 (lvl apropriate for that quest) you can be 3 points behind maximum (without enhancements). you wanna do traps? go full ranks or leave it be. simple as that. Originally Posted by Consumer
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05-27-2010, 07:04 AM #7Community Member
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I've changed the AP's and a few feats around, and I've put full ranks I can in search, DD and OL so if this isn't enough i can't make it much higher. I went drow because no 32 point builds and I like them.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34 DDO Character Planner Home Page c Level 20 Chaotic Good Drow Male (12 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) Hit Points: 344 Spell Points: 30 BAB: 19\19\24\29\29 Fortitude: 15 Reflex: 17 Will: 5 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats (28 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Strength 16 21 24 Dexterity 16 17 21 Constitution 14 14 14 Intelligence 12 12 12 Wisdom 8 8 8 Charisma 10 10 10 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14 Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) (Level 20) Balance 7 10 10 Bluff 0 0 2 Concentration 2 2 4 Diplomacy 0 0 2 Disable Device 5 15 16 Haggle 0 0 0 Heal -1 -1 -1 Hide 7 16 16 Intimidate 0 0 2 Jump 7 12 12 Listen -1 -1 1 Move Silently 7 16 16 Open Lock 7 19 20 Perform n/a n/a n/a Repair 1 1 1 Search 5 18 23 Spot 3 10 14 Swim 3 7 7 Tumble n/a n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a n/a Level 1 (Rogue) Skill: Balance (+4) Skill: Disable Device (+4) Skill: Hide (+4) Skill: Jump (+4) Skill: Move Silently (+4) Skill: Open Lock (+4) Skill: Search (+4) Skill: Spot (+4) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Level 2 (Rogue) Skill: Balance (+1) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Level 3 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Selected) Mobility Level 4 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Level 5 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Level 6 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Level 7 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Construct Level 8 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Hide (+1) Skill: Move Silently (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Spot (+1) Level 9 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 10 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons Level 11 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Level 12 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons Level 13 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Level 14 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Level 15 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Level 16 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons Level 17 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Level 18 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 19 (Fighter) Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+0.5) Level 20 (Fighter) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+0.5) Skill: Open 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05-27-2010, 07:15 AM #8Community Member
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i really would not put points into hide and move silently (unless its a roleplay/flavour build). Originally Posted by yugi1111
its save to leave open lock at around 8 points (with gear you will be able to open every important lock ingame).
you should have full disable and search. if you are new it does not hurt to have a high spot score aswell.
you should invest 1 rank into tumble just to enable it.
balance can be quite important
same goes for umd.
if you plan to solo lots you should really thing about investing into umd.
great fortitude and power critical are questionable feats.
quickdraw is always a good choice for fighters and i'd rather take a 2nd toughness instead either of the 2 beforementioned
else its a pretty solid build.Thelanis - Inferus Sus
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i agree with the posts above. put all into disable to max it out or leave it alone. I do not have any points into disable/open locks for I am just using the Rogue for evasion purposes. Long story short, I didn't make my build correct and when i went to get a level of Monk for evasion, i saw that i left the alignment True Nuetral and therefore no monk. I am using the Rogue but leaving the ranks alone. I might lesser Reincarnate and if I do, I will max out these to be efficient. As for UMD, Max it out or leave it alone. Up to you. I love UMD for later times in the game. It's a personal preference.
As for the build in drow. Eat some tomes (if you find em) and whala you should have a pretty solid build. Numbers look good for drow. With the CONST being 14, gonna need a lot of toughness for you will hit like a truck but take some damage too.Sprulok TR 20 dark monk/ Spruloki lvl 20 TR'd Exploiter / Magnetik "aka Miss Piggy" TR'd 12ftr/6rgr/2monk/ tank / Trixxii lvl 20 TR'd light monk/ Bllaak Stabbath lvl 20 tr'd assassin/ Axetress lvl 14 juggernaut Zenaidemule --------------- Ghallanda server-------------Officer of the Captain's Crew
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05-27-2010, 09:56 AM #10Community Member
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so I should stop putting ranks in OL when I hit fighter and put it ALL in DD ( with spares in search?) right?
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05-27-2010, 11:01 AM #11Community Member
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with thieves tools +5 this would seem to be a better option. Plus you can gear up to get the desired numbers to open locks/disable device. Should work out for you better if you do this option. Just my opinion. Originally Posted by yugi1111
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