monk evasion + mithril body

[Emeldir]

if i take mithril body am i going to lose the evasion from my 2 monk levels? i assume the wis bonus is lost but that's not really an issue (has this been tested rather than guessing that the evasion -should- be lost)

[Uska]

yup it goes bye bye

[Emeldir]

thanks for the response that's a shame i wanted the blademark docent with a body feat

[toughguyjoe]

Heh. You don't just lose Evasion. You lose Wis to Ac and the ability to use Flurry of blows. Basically if you are a WF and you want to go Monk, its composite or choose another race.

[Emeldir]

it's a monster build with no ac so just evasion lost. if i did a +2 reincarnate and took 2 rogue levels instead of monk would i retain the evasion that way?

[Monkey_Archer]

The evasion feat granted by monk or rogue is the same. It has nothing to do with being centered. Since mithril body is considered light armor you will keep evasion regardless of if you got it from monk or rogue levels.

[Uska]

The evasion feat granted by monk or rogue is the same. It has nothing to do with being centered. Since mithril body is considered light armor you will keep evasion regardless of if you got it from monk or rogue levels.

wrong monks lose evasion in armor

[Emeldir]

The evasion feat granted by monk or rogue is the same. It has nothing to do with being centered. Since mithril body is considered light armor you will keep evasion regardless of if you got it from monk or rogue levels.

i was hoping this was the case but has this been tested? i don't wanna spend $10 on tp to respec if it isn't ^^ i've got an 18 rog 2 monk and she has 2 evasion feats, i'm not sure if one is allright with light armour and 1 isn't.

[Visty]

wrong monks lose evasion in armor

then how does it come that my monksplash keeps his evasion while wearing armor?

i was hoping this was the case but has this been tested? i don't wanna spend $10 on tp to respec if it isn't ^^ i've got an 18 rog 2 monk and she has 2 evasion feats, i'm not sure if one is allright with light armour and 1 isn't.

if you spec the second monklvl out you still have rogue evasion. if there is really a difference to the monk one (which isnt) then you loose nothing anyway as the rogue one works in light armor

[Emeldir]

then how does it come that my monksplash keeps his evasion while wearing armor?

hey vist is your monk splash on a wf? equipping armor might be different to picking a feat?

[Emeldir]

if you spec the second monklvl out you still have rogue evasion. if there is really a difference to the monk one (which isnt) then you loose nothing anyway as the rogue one works in light armor

thats another character. the one i'm concerned with just has the monk evasion, i've got another character with 2 evasion feats listed in the feat list because she's 18 rog 2 monk. because of that i wasn't sure if the two feats were different.

[Visty]

hey vist is your monk splash on a wf? equipping armor might be different to picking a feat?

no, its not a wf, yet uskas comment didnt specify body armor feats just armor

but theres an easy way to test this:
roll a lvl4 veteran wf monk and find someone to cast spells on you

[Emeldir]

no, its not a wf, yet uskas comment didnt specify body armor feats just armor

but theres an easy way to test this:
roll a lvl4 veteran wf monk and find someone to cast spells on you

yeah that does seem a good idea #runs off to char gen#

[Visty]

just did it though not sure if you get no damage at that trap everytime when you save it
gonna retest that now with a nonevasion

its the cold trap in ringleader hard btw


€dit:
tested on nonevasive guy: even on a save there is damage



so its proven: evasion works for wfs with mithral body (also it shows that the armor feat uncenteres you)

[Emeldir]

just did it though not sure if you get no damage at that trap everytime when you save it
gonna retest that now with a nonevasion

its the cold trap in ringleader hard btw


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i've got two accounts so just tested in pvp. the level 4 monk with mithril body saved vs my wizards fireball and took no damage. seems you retain monk evasion with body, can't be bothered testing with addy body seeing as i know waht i needed to now i feel silly for not just trying this earlier

[Zeruell]

Mithral body is light armor, so it does not interfere with evasion.

Adamantine body is heavy armor, which does.

[Tsuarok]

it's a monster build with no ac so just evasion lost. if i did a +2 reincarnate and took 2 rogue levels instead of monk would i retain the evasion that way?

I know that the question is answered and all, so you probably won't check the thread again, but, if you don't care about AC, why the body feat?

Edit: typo

[Hydro]

I know that the question is answered and all, so you probably won't check the thread again, but, if you don't care about AC, why the body feat?

Edit: typo

Cause Mithral body looks awesome!

[bobbryan2]

wrong monks lose evasion in armor

That's not even true in pnp.

[Uska]

That's not even true in pnp.

would be in my game any armor for monk and no evasion but then I only run a heavily modified 1st ed anyways.