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    Default how much could these smite weapons worth?

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    Most people using would probably have improved crit:Slash which negates the keen but I would say in the 300,000 - 500,000 gold area. Maybe less if there are other +3 smiters with that crit range on the AH. It's all timing and how bad someone needs one. I would put them up for base plat minimum and 30,000 plat buyout if it were me.
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    id say more then 30k , to be nice id say 50 - 100k as alot of people drop ic slash once they get min II's crafted so to have keen on there smiters is a bonus
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    I'll give you 50kpp for the scimmy.

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    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
    Smite is actually crit based. Nice speech though if you didn't have that error in it.

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    Ya mon, Smite is crit based. Disruption is not.
    The creature needs to make a save versus smite or be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
    maybe u should insert your foot into your mouth before u make a post like this because obviously u have know idea what your talking about and dont understand smiters and how they work in this game , disruption is a different story but wasnt even mentioned in the OP so take your trolling post somewhere else
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    Quote Originally Posted by daggaz View Post
    surprised At Some Of The Responses.. Keen Is Worth Jack ***** On A Smiter, Same As Seeing It On A Disruptor (or Greater Bane Weapons Of The Same Caliber). Constructs And Undead Are Immune To Crits. Smite And Disruption Arent Crit Based, You Just Force A Check Each And Every Time You Smack A Mob With It. So Keen Does Absolutely No Good There And Is Really Just A Waste Of "points" On The Weapon.

    Adamantium Or Metalline For The Smiter Would Be Nice, On The Other Hand, As Then You Are Probably At Least Breaking The Dr Of The Construct So That It Is Taking Damage If Smite Does Not Go Off.

    Similiarily, Holy Burst On The Disruptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daggaz View Post
    surprised At Some Of The Responses.. Keen Is Worth Jack ***** On A Smiter, Same As Seeing It On A Disruptor (or Greater Bane Weapons Of The Same Caliber). Constructs And Undead Are Immune To Crits. Smite And Disruption Arent Crit Based, You Just Force A Check Each And Every Time You Smack A Mob With It. So Keen Does Absolutely No Good There And Is Really Just A Waste Of "points" On The Weapon.

    Adamantium Or Metalline For The Smiter Would Be Nice, On The Other Hand, As Then You Are Probably At Least Breaking The Dr Of The Construct So That It Is Taking Damage If Smite Does Not Go Off.

    Similiarily, Holy Burst On The Disruptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    Surprised at some of the responses.. keen is worth jack ***** on a smiter, same as seeing it on a disruptor (or greater bane weapons of the same caliber). Constructs and undead are immune to crits. Smite and disruption arent crit based, you just force a check each and every time you smack a mob with it. So keen does absolutely no good there and is really just a waste of "points" on the weapon.

    Adamantium or metalline for the smiter would be nice, on the other hand, as then you are probably at least breaking the DR of the construct so that it is taking damage if smite does not go off.

    Similiarily, holy burst on the disruptor.
    You got the correct conclusion but for the wrong reasons.

    Keen is useless on a smiter because by the time ppl get that weapon everyone has improved critical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HallowedOne View Post
    You got the correct conclusion but for the wrong reasons.

    Keen is useless on a smiter because by the time ppl get that weapon everyone has improved critical.

    awesome! 2 fails same threadj Is there something in the water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quikster View Post
    Wheres my facepalm???
    Since we’re talking about scimitars I tried to find a Drizzt facepalm but the almighty Google failed to deliver.

    So in the meantime…
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantumFX View Post
    Since we’re talking about scimitars I tried to find a Drizzt facepalm but the almighty Google failed to deliver.

    So in the meantime…
    OMG you got me before i cut my hair when i was all dressed up!!!! Thats awesome thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by HallowedOne View Post
    You got the correct conclusion but for the wrong reasons.

    Keen is useless on a smiter because by the time ppl get that weapon everyone has improved critical.
    Lol.

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    What is wrong with my reasoning? Isn't it crit-processed? Isn't it Smiting a lvl 8 or 10 item property, and you need 9 lvls for improved critical?

    Edit: According to this post, Keen is +1 and Smiting is +5

    ML of such items would be then 10, according to the formulae in the same post.
    Improved Critical is taken at lvl 9, huh, really, I don't see a flaw on my reasoning.
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