POV: High School Drama - Was what I did right?

[cdbd3rd]

Oh, and LegitSai - High School sucks. Always has, always will. Life begins AFTER high school. Other than getting decent grades and hopefully having fun with a few friends (oh, and I suppose a significant other can be good too), NOTHING that happens to you in high school really means that much. When I think back to how much agony I went through and bullying I experienced, and how much it hurt me at the time, I just have to shake my head and think, "If only I'd known how irrelevant they and the entire system really was."

Just now getting caught up on the thread, but had to second this on my way by.

So true.

[Rav'n]

My uncle gave me the best advice of my life when I was in school.


Soon as you find yourself in a position where you're getting bullied - take the fight to him. You may lose, and it's gonna hurt, and there will likely be trouble from the school.

However, bullies look for weak targets. Even if you lose, he'll know that to mess with you again will mean another fight, and will likely look elsewhere for his fun.


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10-15 years ago....this would have been GREAT advice. But I wouldn't advise it today. Noone wins in a school fight. Schools have a NO Tolerence on these things now.

Take Kist's advice. I'd definitely get your parents involved. These are the things that good parents hope you avoid, but letting them know whats going on at school can only strengthen any bond you have with your parents.

[cdbd3rd]

10-15 years ago....this would have been GREAT advice. But I wouldn't advise it today. Noone wins in a school fight. Schools have a NO Tolerence on these things now.

Take Kist's advice. I'd definitely get your parents involved. These are the things that good parents hope you avoid, but letting them know whats going on at school can only strengthen any bond you have with your parents.

True enough on the 'no tolerance' issue - some schools worse than others.
There have been several really good replies with different views/advice depending on what each poster has experienced, much of which has been geared more to helping prevent future victimizations.

Meanwhile;
With a parent and school authorities involved, I'm pretty sure the I-pod issue will resolve positively. (BTW, in MO $163 of value is a felony-level theft. With witnesses and probably video evidence, I wouldn't want to be in the bullies shoes today.)

Now if I were to guess, I'm betting on an after-school meeting with some parents, school officials, and maybe more...

[Timjc86]

it is better to die an honorable death than to live a life with none.

While I would normally agree with this statement, I see no honor in dying over an iPod. If the OP's in a normal school and is being harassed by a normal bully, the worse that can happen is a beating. In such a case I'd say stand up for yourself (but be prepared to accept punishment from the school as a consequence.)

But if the OP's in a rougher area or the bully's not sane and there's a high risk of a confrontation seeing the application of deadly force, I'd say it's not worth it.

There are things worth dying for - an iPod is not one of them.

My verdict on humans is they should be eradicated from this beautiful planet.....if I still considered myself one I'd be the first in line.

It's true.......I will love the tree in my front yard more than I will ever love another being.

The tree gives me breath........while a person many times tries to take it away.

That's scary.

I honestly can't tell if you're serious or if you're trolling.

Such a view is self fulfilling: all people are awful and deserve to be wiped from the earth so you treat them accordingly, which leads to awful behavior.

[RangerOne]

You have been robbed. Pure and simple. It does not matter if it was in school and you are both minors.

1. Tell your parents.
2. Inform the school authorities
3. File a police report.

Attacking him will only make you liable for battery charges. Problem is, you should have done all this yesterday.

[phillymiket]

Such a view is self fulfilling: all people are awful and deserve to be wiped from the earth so you treat them accordingly, which leads to awful behavior.

Amen, brother! While I respect the poster of the quote you refer to's right to a point of view, I wonder what it really means.
The worst atrocities ever committed were done so by people who felt they were 'more evolved' then those being wiped out.
I'm happy the poster won't be in the 'suicide booth' line but am concerned that it's implied that I should take a place.
Please write down the steps you took to evolve in such a grandiose and beautiful way before you commit the rest of us to the compost pile. Maybe we too could follow the path.
That being said I'm glad you like trees. I like trees. See, we have something in common after all

[XxLegitSaixX]

Got iPod back.

Gave both of those two kids 2 weeks of jail sentence, they'll be writing their finals in jail.

Life is back to normal, charging it as I type this.

Thanks so much for the help guys, I feel way more confident and i'll think about taking the dojo training over the summer.

All in all, I feel good.

I got a restraint order saying that they can't be of 5ft near me, and if ANYTHING happens to me, both of them will get charged for assault and there life is just going to get that much worse.

Thanks so much guys, love the DDO forums

- Oh and office called the police and TWENTY people.. Count it, TWENTY witnessed and came to the office with me.. I feel more popular, screw violence.

[Trillea]

Got iPod back.

Gave both of those two kids 2 weeks of jail sentence, they'll be writing their finals in jail.

Life is back to normal, charging it as I type this.

Thanks so much for the help guys, I feel way more confident and i'll think about taking the dojo training over the summer.

All in all, I feel good.

I got a restraint order saying that they can't be of 5ft near me, and if ANYTHING happens to me, both of them will get charged for assault and there life is just going to get that much worse.

Thanks so much guys, love the DDO forums

**applause**

Good on you sir, and may your summer vacation go well! I would suggest leaving the punching to your dwarven monk...

[Eladiun]

Got iPod back.

Gave both of those two kids 2 weeks of jail sentence, they'll be writing their finals in jail.

Life is back to normal, charging it as I type this.

Thanks so much for the help guys, I feel way more confident and i'll think about taking the dojo training over the summer.

All in all, I feel good.

I got a restraint order saying that they can't be of 5ft near me, and if ANYTHING happens to me, both of them will get charged for assault and there life is just going to get that much worse.

Thanks so much guys, love the DDO forums

- Oh and office called the police and TWENTY people.. Count it, TWENTY witnessed and came to the office with me.. I feel more popular, screw violence.

Glad it worked out for you...

[XxLegitSaixX]

**applause**

Good on you sir, and may your summer vacation go well! I would suggest leaving the punching to your dwarven monk...

Haha, so true, btw, go to the monk forums and show it off, very sexy monk

[XxLegitSaixX]

Glad it worked out for you...

Thank you ^.^

[phillymiket]

Got iPod back.

Gave both of those two kids 2 weeks of jail sentence, they'll be writing their finals in jail.

Life is back to normal, charging it as I type this.

Thanks so much for the help guys, I feel way more confident and i'll think about taking the dojo training over the summer.

All in all, I feel good.

I got a restraint order saying that they can't be of 5ft near me, and if ANYTHING happens to me, both of them will get charged for assault and there life is just going to get that much worse.

Thanks so much guys, love the DDO forums

- Oh and office called the police and TWENTY people.. Count it, TWENTY witnessed and came to the office with me.. I feel more popular, screw violence.

Yeaaaa!!! Right is might.
Martial arts are awesome. You get strong mentally and physically. Sometimes you just cant out think the bad guys like you did. Training helps on that day.
Watch your back, in case its not over.
Good job.

[XxLegitSaixX]

Yeaaaa!!! Right is might.
Martial arts are awesome. You get strong mentally and physically. Sometimes you just cant out think the bad guys like you did. Training helps on that day.
Watch your back, in case its not over.
Good job.

Nah I doubt i'm going to get hurt just cause there friend got jailed for doing something wrong, people in my school and his friends might look shady but they mean no harm, they know that messing with me is jail time and school is almost over, I have a bubble around me saying "**** with me, your going to get facerolled by the police."

[Rinnoan]

Gave both of those two kids 2 weeks of jail sentence, they'll be writing their finals in jail.
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I got a restraint order saying that they can't be of 5ft near me, and if ANYTHING happens to me, both of them will get charged for assault and there life is just going to get that much worse.
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- Oh and office called the police and TWENTY people.. Count it, TWENTY witnessed and came to the office with me.. I feel more popular, screw violence.

So.. Arrested, Lawyered (ya ya, not a real word), Judged, Convicted, and Jailed, and a restraining order all in the same day? What the heck country do you live in? Justice around here takes at least a month!

It sounds like you got a good crew of friends there, make sure they know how much you appreciate the support!

Any self defense training you can get is good as it'll boost your confidence in yourself. Most bullies will back down if you can stand up for yourself with confidence. Just don't be stupid about it and take on more than you can handle.

And finally, gratz on getting your iPod back, he add any good music?

[Kistilan]

Got iPod back.

Gave both of those two kids 2 weeks of jail sentence, they'll be writing their finals in jail.

Life is back to normal, charging it as I type this.

Thanks so much for the help guys, I feel way more confident and i'll think about taking the dojo training over the summer.

All in all, I feel good.

I got a restraint order saying that they can't be of 5ft near me, and if ANYTHING happens to me, both of them will get charged for assault and there life is just going to get that much worse.

Thanks so much guys, love the DDO forums

- Oh and office called the police and TWENTY people.. Count it, TWENTY witnessed and came to the office with me.. I feel more popular, screw violence.

I'm glad it worked out for you, LegitSai.

Although you did win this confrontation without physical violence (awesome btw), if you think you'd ever be down for it, I highly encourage joining a martial art if you've got some spare time to kill when you're not listening to your ipod. The confidence combined with your new experience in this situation will allow you to talk a bully down in the future. And, if someone ever decides to try to pay you back, you will have something to assist you if you tread the new waters of a physical confrontation.

Hopefully you don't have to come to the internet forum for advice in the future. You got enough enought street smart advice here in the last 2 days to feed 5 years of experiences.

[XxLegitSaixX]

So.. Arrested, Lawyered (ya ya, not a real word), Judged, Convicted, and Jailed, and a restraining order all in the same day? What the heck country do you live in? Justice around here takes at least a month!

It sounds like you got a good crew of friends there, make sure they know how much you appreciate the support!

Any self defense training you can get is good as it'll boost your confidence in yourself. Most bullies will back down if you can stand up for yourself with confidence. Just don't be stupid about it and take on more than you can handle.

And finally, gratz on getting your iPod back, he add any good music?

Thanks, ya i'll take up on that training. And no, he took a video of his little brother, which otherwise he didn't know how to delete form my iPod so he just got pretty screwed.

I'm glad it worked out for you, LegitSai.

Although you did win this confrontation without physical violence (awesome btw), if you think you'd ever be down for it, I highly encourage joining a martial art if you've got some spare time to kill when you're not listening to your ipod. The confidence combined with your new experience in this situation will allow you to talk a bully down in the future. And, if someone ever decides to try to pay you back, you will have something to assist you if you tread the new waters of a physical confrontation.

Hopefully you don't have to come to the internet forum for advice in the future. You got enough enought street smart advice here in the last 2 days to feed 5 years of experiences.

Haha thanks, you really helped me through this.

[Lehrman]

Ok I know this community is very mature, and im sure all of you have gone through this at least at one point in your life.


This is my last resort to asking for real life help, but i'm sure some of you can tell me some good advice...

It started as a fine day, lunch started and were glad to be out of our boring seminars. As we come out we listen to our iPods, I recently purchased a new iPod Nano around 2 days ago and I am a diehard fan of it, ok so as we were listening two tall kids came around us, they looked intimidating and buff. As a high schooler you really aren't mean to be 6'1" and sort of.. Bullying kids who look weak. So these two kids come by, they say "Hey my bro here Chris lost an iPod the other day." Now I know this kid, he goes on my bus and we talk every now and then if not frequently, he's pretty cool with me. So he comes with this new kid, taller then him, around 6'4" and he rudely grabs my iPod and takes it to his clutches.. Now at this point, all my friends crowd around me, outnumbering him to around 12 and it's a big circle. We keep yelling at him and he finally said "Aight, you can have it back tomorrow when you show us the receipt if it really is yours." So at this point, they both leave, and i'm standing there... "What the 'ef just happened?" All my friends just say to bring the receipt and stuff and my girlfriend was like "Are you really gonna let him go?" And everyone said i'm not going to get it back... I felt soooooo trashy...

I felt afraid to even ask the campus guards...

Afterschool on the bus I met one of the two kids.. For around 12 minutes I was in a serious face, almost grim as if someone died and kept telling him that my dad would:

Call the cops

Call the principle

Come to the campus and ask him himself and make a big deal out of it with the campus guards

By this time, his ice broke, he was scared for his dear life right when I said cops... "Alright man, i'll TRY, wait not try, I WILL get it back to you tomorrow but just try to bring the receipt cause the other kid won't let me get it, just tell your dad not to go crazy, this was a joke but I didn't think it'd be this serious."

I know that he was scared after all this because:

His face CRUMPLED...

He actually called the other kid and told him to bring the iPod back

[Btw, my dad would NEVER do any of those.. He would either yell at me for being an idiot or at the most, call the school office for support...]


Ok but here are my questions to you guys...

What possibly could bringing the receipt tomorrow do for them? Usually I would think that they could take that and claim it as their own bought product, but again, i'm not sure.

What should I do next, because I still haven't told my dad about it, his reaction is going to be terrifying...

Thanks for all the help if you offer any, I hate these real life situations where you can't really get out but to BS the truth out of them...

Ok, here is the basics:

1. It is your IPOD.
2. By misappropriating your IPOD, he effectively stole it.
3. Stealing is against the law whether you are 15 or 50 years old.
4. The moment it happened, you should have said, "Look, it is my Ipod. All of these people witnessed that you are refusing to return an item that is mine. So you have a choice. You can return it to me or I can involve the authotrities. Which is it going to be?" The authorities in this case would be the campus cops and the principle.
5. He will call you a wuss and probably throw threats in your face. Do not respond. Send one of your friends to fetch an authority figure. At this point he will likely return the Ipod to you and go away for the day.
6. Do not bring your Ipod to school again.
7. Expect him to be a **** to you until one of you graduates.

Unfortunately, authority figures in schools are inconsistent in their approaches. The authority figure will either confiscate the Ipod until you can prove ownership (at this point involve your parent) or make the other student return it to you. The fact that you sent for an authority figure rather than taking matters into your own hands will sit well in their minds. Some of your friends--who are not really friends--will hang out with you less and some of your friends--who are really your friends--will respect you more.

[Mockduck]

I'm really glad you got the iPod back and it seems like things were appropriately dealt with. I'd been thinking about your situation all day!

[XxLegitSaixX]

I'm really glad you got the iPod back and it seems like things were appropriately dealt with. I'd been thinking about your situation all day!

Wow thanks bro, means alot

[picaisfun]

I am glad you got your Ipod back. Hope you have a great summer.