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    Well the Youtube craze has caught on. It's fun to capture, upload and watch DDO videos there.. But it's even nicer to watch nice high quality ones where it's not all blurry and all the text and everything is clearly readable. So here's a guide on how to achieve the best high defition quality with the videos you make.

    The good news is almost all the software required to do it is free. Bad news is you do need a very powerful computer to record high definition video at a good playable FPS, tho it's still possible to do it on a lower end computer at lower resolution/FPS.


    Windows XP/7 32-bit VDubMod Guide:
    (x64 vdub guide Below)

    Tools you'll need:
    Video Capturing Software:
    -This is what captures the video and audio of the game for you to a usually uncompressed format. There's a couple good choices:
    Fraps - This is what I use. I find it gives the best quality with the least overhead. It can record full high def 1080p video with full sound at 60FPS. But it is not free. It has a free trial that works for 30 seconds, but you'd need to buy it to make longer videos. The full version has lots of features like displaying FPS of any game, taking screenshots and benchmarking, so it's worth it.
    or
    Xfire - Free alternative. I haven't played with it very much, but it seems to offer similar if not the same functionality of Fraps as far as recording goes. It also offers free upload service directly from the app to their site, but the quality you get there isn't the best so I recommend just taking the ucompressed video and using this guide to compress and upload it to youtube for better quality.

    Encoding:

    VirtualDubMod:
    This app lets you take your uncompressed video and encode it into a format that's correct resolution and small enough to upload to youtube. It also has some minor editing features. Pretty much the best app out there for this purpose, and it's free too. Note this is an older modded version but I find it works much better then the official version.

    Codec:
    x264vfw: Tricky to find the best versions to work with Vdub so I have them here for you:
    x86: http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264..._1195bm_19501/ <--- This is the correct one for this guide.

    x64: http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sf...5bm_19501.exe/

    If your confused about what verison to download, just pick the top one. The x64 version might be a tiny bit faster on a x64 machine with vdub64, but won't work on a 32bit app like Virtualdubmod.. You'd have to get Vdub64 (see windows 7 guide), the top version should work for everyone.
    This is the codec that lets you compress your videos down to a nice easy to upload size, yet maintain a very high quality. It is the best codec yet.

    Note this is a bit older version that works the best with Virtualdubmod I find. If you want to use the latest most bug-free version you can tho, it's more complex to get it to work with vdubmod: How to:
    Go to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/
    -Get the latest x86 version.
    -Install it. It won't work initial.. Find where you put the .dll, and copy it somewhere.
    -Uninstall it.
    -Install the version above.
    -Copy the newer Dll you backed up over the old one to your windows/system32 folder. (Need admin privilages)

    May also need:
    Haali Media Splitter
    Virtualdubmod encodes into .mkv files and you won't be able to view them without this. If you have already installed some kind of codec pack you shouldn't need it, if yout not sure, install it anyways.

    How to use all this stuff:
    Fraps and Xfire are fair straightforward. Pick where to record to in the options. Setup a hotkey (fraps default is F9 I believe) and press it once ingame.
    Options for best quality: Pretty much the defaults should work well for fraps (Haven't played with xfire lately so not sure). But consider changing the FPS. Youtube will change your videos fps to 29.97 regardless of what you record at, so higher won't nessasarily be always smoother (tho sometimes it will be) I recommend you set it to custom: 29.97 - this will save lots of hard drive space and may use a bit less system resources. However if you have a ton of HD space and an incredible computer, set it to 60fps for possibly smoother gameplay while recording (end result shouldn't look much different)
    Note: If you have seperate hard drive, recording to a different hard drive then the game is installed on will often significantly improve your load times and reduce trashing.

    How to use VirtualDubMod:
    Much more complex app then Fraps but just follow these steps:
    1. File - open. Find the first video file you want.. You will probably have several tho since the max filesize per is 4gb (and at high def that could be as little as 30 seconds of video) So append on the later segments in order (Fraps will give each one a filename with the exact date and time to make it easier for you). To append a segment, just click file - append segment. Keep doing this until you have your full clip, or until you hit 10 minuits (That's the maximum length youtube allows)

    2. Do some minor editing. Virtualdubmod doesn't allow much editing, you'd need some extra software to do more fancy things, but it does allow the basic start/end marks to cut off anything boring. Use the little arrows on the bottom right to set up start and end times. If you want o skip large portions then continue, you'll need to do it in several steps (or jobs as virtualdubmod calls em)

    3. Resize it to a better youtube-compatible resolution (Do this no matter what your original game resolution was). You pretty much have 2 good choices: 1920x1080 or 1280x720. The 1920 option will provide the absolute best quality as long as your starting with a similarly high resolution, but can also make the video longer to load on youtube and sometimes buffer.. While the 1280x720 option will look decent, process faster and still provide a very good quality. Up to you.
    How to do it:
    Video - Filters - Add - Resize - Ok (option dialog comes up) Set Resolution - Mode:Lanczos3

    Note if you for some reason you still play your game on a 5:4 or 4:3 monitor (go widescreen silly ) you may wanna resize the video to 1920x1432 instead. I haven't tested this but I think it would result in less stretching and still good quality on youtube. Anyone on such a monitor wanna test it out and let me know/see the video =)

    4. Encode it.
    File - Save as. Pick a name. Save as type: Mastroska (*.mkv)
    Video: Full Processing
    Compression: Change.
    Select x264vfw. Hit configure. Select bitrate of 8000. (I find that's enough to provide near-100% quality while maintaing a reasonable filesize for youtube) Note you can go as high as you want tho, as long as your end video is under 2gb, youtube will take it. If your limited on hard drive space, as low as 5000 should still provide decent quality while saving a bit of space.
    For ease of use just leave it on CBR. If you must have the best possible quality tho, do a multipass run (Won't go into detail how to do this since its a bit complex, but there's lots of guides out there for that)

    5. Upload it. Head to youtube, get an account and click the button. Pretty simple. You can check some of my videos on my channel here to see the kind of quality you can get: http://www.youtube.com/user/AxerDDO

    Note on audio:
    If you want to change the audio track you can with Virtualdubmod. Just go steams - steam list - then add one, and/or disable the original one. Allot of people like to put there favourite music on there videos - but keep in mind that putting any kind of copyrighted music into your video is against Youtubes terms of service and will generally get your audio track disabled. So it's usually best to use either free music or just go wit hthe original game sounds. Or another choice is just ot upload it, then use youtubes audioswap feature - which will let you put in some licensed music in the video that youtube has paid for.

    Video Editing Notes:

    Whatever you use.. Please don't use windows movie maker. It's really quite bad software and will ruin the quality of your video as it does not allow you to export uncompressed video (only really horrible quality video). I don't really edit my videos, so I can't recommend any good software that allows non-destructive editing besides Adobe.
    You can check out this list tho for some options:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...iting_software




    ---- Windows 7 x32 and x64 guide - official Virtual Dub version (Works on Vista too):
    Update: The Windows XP guide should now work on Windows 7 too as I updated the x264vfw version to one more compatible with vdubmod.

    Tools you'll need:
    Video Capturing Software:
    -This is what captures the video and audio of the game for you to a usually uncompressed format. There's a couple good choices:
    Fraps - This is what I use. I find it gives the best quality with the least overhead. It can record full high def 1080p video with full sound at 60FPS. But it is not free. It has a free trial that works for 30 seconds, but you'd need to buy it to make longer videos. The full version has lots of features like displaying FPS of any game, taking screenshots and benchmarking, so it's worth it.
    or
    Xfire - Free alternative. I haven't played with it very much, but it seems to offer similar if not the same functionality of Fraps as far as recording goes. It also offers free upload service directly from the app to their site, but the quality you get there isn't the best so I recommend just taking the ucompressed video and using this guide to compress and upload it to youtube for better quality.

    Encoding:
    Two choice here, as you can use the newer official Virtualdub, which supports 64 bit encoding.. Or use Vdubmod which imo is a bit nicer as it supports mkv, both work the same.

    VirtualDub:
    This is the original version of VDub.. It's actually more up to date then Vdubmod, but has less features odd... But more bug fixes and works better with windows 7 x64, so it's a trade off. Bit thing is lack of mkv support, as mkv is just a plain superior container then avi, but for youtube it doesn't really matter.

    Or Use VDubMod.. Check the windows XP guide above for info on that, it works in 7 also.

    If you pick the newer official Vdub:

    x64 users be sure to get the x64 version (veedub64). 32bit grab the normal version.

    This app lets you take your uncompressed video and encode it into a format that's correct resolution and small enough to upload to youtube. It also has some minor editing features. Pretty much the best app out there for this purpose, and it's free too. Note this is an older modded version but I find it works much better then the official version.

    Codec:
    x264vfw - download and install both if your running 64 bit, get only x86 if your running 32 bit.
    x86: http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264..._1195bm_19501/

    x64: http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sf...5bm_19501.exe/

    These are versions I tested to work well. Since x264xfw is updated almost nightly, I think it's best to stick with stable tested versions. But if you wanna go out on the edge and get the latest bleeding edge build you can, go here:
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/
    Note that the newer builds will not work in vdubmod without modificiations to the install tho.. Here's how:
    -Get the latest x86 version.
    -Install it. It won't work initial.. Find where you put the .dll, and copy it somewhere.
    -Uninstall it.
    -Install the version I linked above.
    -Copy the newer Dll you backed up over the old one to your windows/system32 folder. (Need admin privilages)

    This is the codec that lets you compress your videos down to a nice easy to upload size, yet maintain a very high quality. It is the best codec currently available.

    May also need:
    Haali Media Splitter
    Virtualdubmod encodes into .mkv files and you won't be able to view them without this. If you have already installed some kind of codec pack you shouldn't need it, if yout not sure, install it anyways.

    I believe there is a x64 version available, but you probably won't use it. As a 32bit player like windows media player or bsplayer will only use 32bit splitters, despite the fact your running x64.

    How to use all this stuff:
    Fraps and Xfire are fair straightforward. Pick where to record to in the options. Setup a hotkey (fraps default is F9 I believe) and press it once ingame.
    Options for best quality: Pretty much the defaults should work well for fraps (Haven't played with xfire lately so not sure). But consider changing the FPS.
    Youtube will change your videos fps to 29.97 regardless of what you record at, so higher won't nessasarily be always smoother (tho sometimes it will be depending on system config) I recommend you set it to custom: 29.97 - this will save lots of hard drive space and may use a bit less system resources. However if you have a ton of HD space and an incredible computer, set it to 60fps for possibly smoother gameplay while recording (end result shouldn't look much different)
    Note: If you have seperate hard drive, recording to a different hard drive then the game is installed on will often significantly improve your load times and reduce trashing. If you have a SSD - be sure to encode to that to completely elliminate any trashing.

    How to use VirtualDub:
    Much more complex app then Fraps but just follow these steps:

    1. File - open video. Find the first video file you want.. You will probably have several tho since the max filesize per is 4gb (and at high def that could be as little as 30 seconds of video) So append on the later segments in order (Fraps will give each one a filename with the exact date and time to make it easier for you). To append a segment, just click file - append avi segment. Keep doing this until you have your full clip, or until you hit 10 minuits (That's the maximum length youtube allows)

    2. Do some minor editing. Virtualdubmod doesn't allow much editing, you'd need some extra software to do more fancy things, but it does allow the basic start/end marks to cut off anything boring. Use the little arrows on the bottom right to set up start and end times. If you want o skip large portions then continue, you'll need to do it in several steps (or jobs as virtualdubmod calls em)

    3. Resize it to a better youtube-compatible resolution (Do this no matter what your original game resolution was). You pretty much have 2 good choices: 1920x1080 or 1280x720. The 1920 option will provide the absolute best quality as long as your starting with a similarly high resolution, but can also make the video longer to load on youtube and sometimes buffer.. While the 1280x720 option will look decent, process faster and still provide a very good quality. Up to you.
    How to do it:
    Video - Filters - Add - Resize - Ok (option dialog comes up) Set Resolution -
    New size: Absolute
    Aspect Ratio: Disabled
    Mode:Lanczos3

    Don't mess with other options unless your very familiar with them and are running a non-standard widescreen resolution and want to fix the AR by cropping/framing the video.

    Note if you for some reason you still play your game on a 5:4 or 4:3 monitor (go widescreen silly ) you may wanna resize the video to 1920x1432 instead. I haven't tested this but I think it would result in less stretching and still good quality on youtube. Anyone on such a monitor wanna test it out and let me know/see the video =)

    4. Encode it.
    Video - Compression - Select x264vfw

    Hit configure. Select bitrate of 6000-8000. (I find that's enough to provide near-100% quality while maintaing a reasonable filesize for youtube) Note you can go as high as you want tho, as long as your end video is under 2gb, youtube will take it. If your limited on hard drive space, as low as 5000 should still provide decent quality while saving a bit of space.
    Preset: Depends how fast your machine and how long you want to wait. Slower = better quality but takes longer. For a good mix of speed and quality I recommend using either fast, or faster. Going any higher then that will result in poor quality.
    Options: Tick every single box except create stats file else your run into sync issues with the audio.

    For ease of use set it to ABR and leave it on ABR. If you must have the best possible quality tho, you can select lossless or even do a multipass run (Won't go into detail how to do this since its a bit complex, but there's lots of guides out there for that)

    File - Save as. Pick a name. Wait for encode and done this step.

    5. Upload it. Head to youtube, get an account and click the button. Pretty simple. You can check some of my videos on my channel here to see the kind of quality you can get: http://www.youtube.com/user/AxerDDO

    Note on audio:
    If you want to change the audio track you can with Virtualdub. Just go steams - steam list - then add one, and/or disable the original one. Allot of people like to put there favourite music on there videos - but keep in mind that putting any kind of copyrighted music into your video is against Youtubes terms of service and will generally get your audio track disabled. So it's usually best to use either free music or just go wit hthe original game sounds. Or another choice is just ot upload it, then use youtubes audioswap feature - which will let you put in some licensed music in the video that youtube has paid for.

    Video Editing Notes:

    Whatever you use.. Please don't use windows movie maker. It's really quite bad software and will ruin the quality of your video as it does not allow you to export uncompressed video (only really horrible quality video). I don't really edit my videos, so I can't recommend any good software that allows non-destructive editing besides Adobe.
    You can check out this list tho for some options:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...iting_software
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    Little tip for Fraps:
    Install it on other HD - not the one you DDO installed. If they will be on the same Hard Drive, you gonna have a lots of freezes when recording (on nontop-end PC) and playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skani View Post
    Little tip for Fraps:
    Install it on other HD - not the one you DDO installed. If they will be on the same Hard Drive, you gonna have a lots of freezes when recording (on nontop-end PC) and playing.
    Since it's a small program that fully loads into memory, what drive you install it to shouldn't effect performance.
    What will effect the performance is what drive you have it record to. - select a different one then DDO is installed too That is by default the same directory you installed it to I believe, but you can change that in options.

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    I found by not recording or syncing the video with fraps most of my recording lag went away, especially when it went from one file to another.

    the sound is awesome to have and the new versions capture everything if you want, even your voice...(and unfortunately, vent).

    The fraps codec does seem to cause some problems in sony video vegas too. I am thinking of taking virtdub or vegas video and loading the video into it, then saving it, uncompressed into a different usable codec before I start editing.
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    Updated guide to include windows 7 support.

    Did this since I tried to follow my old guide to get my new video look as good as my old ones and was having trouble..

    Seems windows 7 x64 has issues with vdubmod + x264vfw, so I had to switch to vdub classic..

    And it's a bit more complex in terms of options and encoding settings these days so I played around and found some good settings.
    Not sure it's quite as good as it was on XP, but quality seem ok on my new video.

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    Thanks Shade! Want to say thanks for the well written guide. Using this I got much a higher quality video uploaded - very happy with the results!

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    You can. While i keep mine off and don't participate, it doesn't prevent you from doing so.

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    Updated the guide:

    I did a new install of XP since it just runs and records DDO so much better. (100% pure smooth 60FPS, even while recording, vs unstable 10-20FPS in windows 7)

    But had some major issues figuring out how to get vdubmod going again, seems the latest versions x264vfw don't install correctly to work with it.

    So I tried out some old versions to find the best/fatest/most stable version.. One from 2009 i found works best. It's now linked in the main guide so we can all use the same version and not run into these install issues.

    Let me know if this guide works for you guys. VDub is pretty complex and tricky to get going ,but works awesome once you know..So I'll answer any questions to get ya started, I wanna see some more top quality ddo videos and less of the blurry stuff =)

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    haven't tried Fraps, so can't comment on that, but should mention that Xfire only supports dx9 (for DDO anyways). If Xfire isn't launching the 'ingame messenger' or is unable to record, make sure to switch DDO to run in DirectX 9 mode.

    Great guide. thanks!

    EDIT: uploaded to Youtube a first test using Xfire and veedub in 1080p. Super clear, perfect. 2 minute vid took 20 mins to upload. I've a slow connection, so resized in veedub to 780p. again, really great. text is a LITTLE softer around the edges, but still nice and clear, no pixellation. smooth video, quick upload to the site (11 mins), streamed fine. Again, thanks for the guide. No reason for blurry youtube DDO vids from anyone ever again!@!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    haven't tried Fraps, so can't comment on that, but should mention that Xfire only supports dx9 (for DDO anyways). If Xfire isn't launching the 'ingame messenger' or is unable to record, make sure to switch DDO to run in DirectX 9 mode.

    Great guide. thanks!

    EDIT: uploaded to Youtube a first test using Xfire and veedub in 1080p. Super clear, perfect. 2 minute vid took 20 mins to upload. I've a slow connection, so resized in veedub to 780p. again, really great. text is a LITTLE softer around the edges, but still nice and clear, no pixellation. smooth video, quick upload to the site (11 mins), streamed fine. Again, thanks for the guide. No reason for blurry youtube DDO vids from anyone ever again!@!!
    the DX9 limitation is likely a good thing. DDO runs horribly in DX10/11, or windows 7 in general while recording, so youd have very poor performance unless your machine was incredibly high end, like top end current gen it seems, as im only 1 gen behind and have issues on 7.

    RE: Slow upload:
    You will probably get a higher quality by going a lowerbitrate then resolution. Youtube uses a real low bitrate like 4-5mbps, while i recommend 8.. But you can drop it to 4, dropping the filesize in half, and thus upload time too, without too much loss in quality.

    Could also drop the framerate (if you recorded at 60fps), tho that can sometimes lead to audio sync issues.

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    Nice guide, however I have a problem with Vdubmod and opening .mp4.

    I recorded using xfire (free yay!) and the raw quality is as good as in game with little performance hit.

    I used the xfire software to convert to .mp4 as I was going to chop it up and upload at work today.
    Though I couldn't get vdubmod to open it, so I had to use a program to convert to .avi.
    Now it can open, but only directstream is available. It wont load any h264 codec even though I installed the codec you listed and k-lite.

    Any ideas?
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    i use xfire as well. I can't even FIND an option to convert to mp4... I simply used vdubmod (well, veedub actuall, since i'm win7 64) to compress the .avi straight out of xfire and all was well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    i use xfire as well. I can't even FIND an option to convert to mp4... I simply used vdubmod (well, veedub actuall, since i'm win7 64) to compress the .avi straight out of xfire and all was well.
    Hmm after the video is recorded in Xfire, it asks to upload, and if you do that it then does the encoding first, to .mp4

    I might have to just uninstall it all then install again and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khellendros13 View Post
    Hmm after the video is recorded in Xfire, it asks to upload, and if you do that it then does the encoding first, to .mp4

    I might have to just uninstall it all then install again and see.
    Yea dont let it encode or upload. It will give far inferior quality then vdub.

    Just let it record, then find the raw .avi. Not sure what folder they will be by default.

    Ill have to install xfire and update the guide with more specific instructions, havent played with it in years, but when i did it worked well, just a bit slower then fraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Yea dont let it encode or upload. It will give far inferior quality then vdub.

    Just let it record, then find the raw .avi. Not sure what folder they will be by default.

    Ill have to install xfire and update the guide with more specific instructions, havent played with it in years, but when i did it worked well, just a bit slower then fraps.
    Yea I think I got it to work and output .mkv , this is the quality I get resizing from 1680x1050 to 1280x800 then uploading to youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ariithka?feature=mhee

    I am uploading the last 15mins of that Sins run now, and will see if it's better direct from RAW to 1280x800 then to youtube tonight. About 40 mins till the upload is done.
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    If your using Window 7, I HIGHLY recommend using the following to upload your youtube video's.

    Use PLAYCLAW to record, its cheap (has an excellent free demo) and records in higher quality using less resources then FRAPS. In my opinion it is currently the best video game recording solution available.

    Then, use WINDOWS LIVE MOVIE MAKER, available for FREE from Microsoft. It will automatically convert and upload your movie to YouTube, no muss no fuss. It is literally the simplest solution available and the quality is outstanding.

    Here is an example video I uploaded using just the two tools above:
    http://youtu.be/_94ZtKzEQFg

    It couldn't be any simpler to make and then upload a quality video now. I spent quite a lot of time messing around with FRAPS, TAXI, TMPENC, DOOM9.org, downloading codecs, etc... I cant justify putting anyone else through that, I really cant.

    If you cant install either of those for some reason, then I guess you'll be forced to do it the hard way.

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    Yep, thats why I said if your on Win7 and can do it. As far as XP running DDO better, I cant really attest to that as I gave up on XP years ago, I used Vista for DDO and never had OS related issues, and now I use Win7 and dont have any OS related issues, and I'm looking forward to Win8 even though I think its too soon for a new OS edition from MS, but ehh... its how they make money.

    Still, just so were comparing Apple's to Apple's I decided to make 2 video's from the same raw, one using MovieMaker and the other the settings Shade suggests for VDUB.

    Original Source is 1920x1080 DDO RAW uncompressed video recorded using PlayClaw. The original file size for the 30's of video is 3,669,327 KB, or roughly 3.66 GB. Windows Live Movie Maker reduced that file down to 25,935 KB in roughly 1 Min 30 Seconds. This is using the default "You Tube" publish link built right into Movie Maker, no other settings were used/changed. Virtual Dub using x264 at 8000 VBR Bitrate quality reduced it down to 29,290 KB, also in 1 Min 33 Seconds. This is using the x264 64Bit codec shade posted in the first post as well as the 64bit version of virtual dub and following shades suggested settings.

    Both were uploaded to You Tube, and here's the results:
    Windows Live Movie Maker Clip
    Virtual Dub Clip

    Honestly, I cant tell any significant quality difference between the two. But be sure to watch the spots I circle with the cursor, because the problems that I have run into with poorer compression programs and recorders in the past is loss of "fine" texture (on the options box in the area I circle) and artifacts on small text, so pause and check both videos for that on the "10" font size.

    Again tho, I'm not saying one way is better then the other, I'm just saying that if you have access to Win7 its "simpler" to just use Movie Maker as its brain dead easy. Which brings me to a "how to" guide on how to upload video's with Windows Live Movie Maker.

    Windows 7 (Possible Vista)

    Download and install your favorite video capture Program:
    Play Claw - Is the program I prefer and recommend. Has an unlimited trail with ads on your video's.
    FRAPS - The original game video tool, still gets the job done. Has a 30 second time and quality limited trail.
    xFire - Free

    Download and install Windows Live Movie Maker: Microsoft has loads of information and support for this product, so if you have any issue's getting it downloaded and installed feel free to contact them.

    Thats it for getting everything set up, so go ahead and record a video. Once you have a video recorded that you want to upload follow these simple steps:

    Launch Windows Live Movie Maker, you will be presented with a screen that looks like this.

    Simply click anywhere in the area that says "Click here to browse for Video's and Photo's". When you do will be presented with a menu to select your file.

    You can see here I have selected the DDO comparison video raw I posted above. So go ahead and select your video, you will be presented with the following screen.

    You can now see the video preview on the left, as well as a clip editing panel on the right. Feel free to edit the length of your video, add more video's in sequence, captions, or even some of those silly "effects" like sliding panes and text. For the purposes of this how to though, we'll assume your ready to upload. So just click on the big "You Tube" icon in the upper right, you will be presented with the following options.

    As you can see there are several presets available to you, as well as the predicted final file size for those presets. I highly recommend you choose the 1920x1080 preset I have, however if your source video is of a lower definition then that, choose the preset that matches that resolution the closest. Once you have selected the preset you are given yet another screen.

    Here you enter your YouTube login information for your account. If you dont have an account simply go create one and come back to this step to enter your credentials. This brings you to the next step.

    On this screen you enter the time, description, and other relevant information about the video your uploading. Go ahead and fill it out and click "Publish". Thats it, now all you do is wait for it to encode.

    and then wait for it to upload
    .
    You are done, now you just find the link to your video and start spamming it around so everyone can see what amazing thing you did. It really couldn't be any simpler.
    Last edited by Xionanx; 09-23-2011 at 11:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xionanx View Post
    Both were uploaded to You Tube, and here's the results:
    Windows Live Movie Maker Clip
    Virtual Dub Clip
    Nice test..

    The vdub one looks extremely better and clearer to me. Main thing is the sharpness - all is very nice and sharp, nearly perfect in the vdub one.. The movie maker one has a very evident and heavy smoothing effect going on.

    Also you did kind of a very easy to compress video, being you never move around and just play with menus. Better test would be moving around. A still image is very easy to encode without qulaity loss. a high motion video is not.

    Anyways, looks night and day to me, cant recommend movie maker. Maybe im partial, but I think most people can easily tell the difference from your clps,and those will be magnified in more intense vids.

    re: Speed - did you try the x64 version? Some reports show its ~10-15% faster on a high end quad core or better.

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