DDO Ripoff store

[Valkenr]

Yeah great game so far, played for a few days, one HUGE problem with you guys.

Monk + Favored soul: 1590 pts... $19.50 = 1550 pts
$19.50/1550pt = $.1258/pt .... 1590pts * $.1258 = $20(+3/10 of a cent)
Rip off? I think yes...
This says one thing: "We are going to make you pay more than you want."

Get rid of the bull **** token system for purchasing from the DDO store. Cursing is justified here, i don't care if it offends anyone, it properly gets the point across.

If i want to buy 1 thing, I only want to pay for that one thing. This point system drops you guys down to the level of "Korean power grinder" because all the south east asian mmos use this same **** system to rip of customers.

If you aren't willing to drop the token system, let us choose how much we buy to the single digit. you can scale your "bonus" to the amount, the equation will take 1 min to create based off of your current data.

The funny part is you will make more money if you don't make people overpay, because more people will buy things if they don't have to overspend for that one thing they want.

Other than that gj

Yeah, and i don't care if there is already a topic about this, or if there are a lot of topics about this. If either of these are so, the point needs to be brought across stronger. So there is no need to waste you time telling me so.

[xEthreal]

/signed

[XxLegitSaixX]

Yeah great game so far, played for a few days, one HUGE problem with you guys.

Monk + Favored soul: 1590 pts... $19.50 = 1550 pts
$19.50/1550pt = $.1258/pt .... 1590pts * $.1258 = $20(+3/10 of a cent)
Rip off? I think yes...
This says one thing: "We are going to make you pay more than you want."

Get rid of the bull **** token system for purchasing from the DDO store. Cursing is justified here, i don't care if it offends anyone, it properly gets the point across.

If i want to buy 1 thing, I only want to pay for that one thing. This point system drops you guys down to the level of "Korean power grinder" because all the south east asian mmos use this same **** system to rip of customers.

If you aren't willing to drop the token system, let us choose how much we buy to the single digit. you can scale your "bonus" to the amount, the equation will take 1 min to create based off of your current data.

The funny part is you will make more money if you don't make people overpay, because more people will buy things if they don't have to overspend for that one thing they want.

Other than that gj

Yeah, and i don't care if there is already a topic about this, or if there are a lot of topics about this. If either of these are so, the point needs to be brought across stronger. So there is no need to waste you time telling me so.

We got money to blowww!!!

Jk'ing yes its a large ripoff, im surprised that this game didn't turn out like any other ****** mmo right now. It's because the bonus thing they have attracts more people, when really it is a ripoff.

/signed

If only this game had WoW premium mechanics, where its only monthly payment + free and the rest of the stuff you grind for, maybe it'd be more fair.

[azrael4h]

Tip: You get TP for earning Favor. Every 100 points of Favor, you get 25 turbine points. First characters on a server also get bonus points before hitting 100. Create a toon, run it up to 100 Favor, on a server you haven't ran yet. You've just got enough points to just buy Monk and FvS. No extra money spent beyond your $20.

You can hit 100 Favor in a day, so pick a Saturday, roll something, and get to work. There are even groups who do nothing but grind for favor, in order to circumvent paying any money for anything. Find one, and join in for awhile. If you really have time, you can repeatedly run to 100 favor, delete character and start again. Takes a long while to get anywhere doing that, but then it's free, and you can earn enough to buy whatever you want.

[Tapsimanxer]

Tip: You get TP for earning Favor. Every 100 points of Favor, you get 25 turbine points. First characters on a server also get bonus points before hitting 100. Create a toon, run it up to 100 Favor, on a server you haven't ran yet. You've just got enough points to just buy Monk and FvS. No extra money spent beyond your $20.

You can hit 100 Favor in a day, so pick a Saturday, roll something, and get to work. There are even groups who do nothing but grind for favor, in order to circumvent paying any money for anything. Find one, and join in for awhile. If you really have time, you can repeatedly run to 100 favor, delete character and start again. Takes a long while to get anywhere doing that, but then it's free, and you can earn enough to buy whatever you want.

this is true. i dont consider TP as equivalent to real money as converting $$=TP to how much you payed for. you pay $19.99 for playing the game, and thats it. because while playing the game you get TP as a reward. you also paid for that because you played the game. so the amount of TP you get for your moneys worth is really up to you.

[Antheal]

You could do what I do and just pretend Monks and Favoured Souls don't exist in this game...

[KillEveryone]

You can also unlock favored soul for free. You have to hit 2500 favor but you don't have to purchase them at all.

[DelverRootnose]

Tip: You get TP for earning Favor. Every 100 points of Favor, you get 25 turbine points. First characters on a server also get bonus points before hitting 100. Create a toon, run it up to 100 Favor, on a server you haven't ran yet. You've just got enough points to just buy Monk and FvS. No extra money spent beyond your $20.

You can hit 100 Favor in a day, so pick a Saturday, roll something, and get to work. There are even groups who do nothing but grind for favor, in order to circumvent paying any money for anything. Find one, and join in for awhile. If you really have time, you can repeatedly run to 100 favor, delete character and start again. Takes a long while to get anywhere doing that, but then it's free, and you can earn enough to buy whatever you want.

That favored souls and monk can be opened on one server with lots of favor points. So if you can wait and play a barbarian for a month or so you probably can get enough favor to open up favored soul.

[Uska]

We got money to blowww!!!

Jk'ing yes its a large ripoff, im surprised that this game didn't turn out like any other ****** mmo right now. It's because the bonus thing they have attracts more people, when really it is a ripoff.

/signed

If only this game had WoW premium mechanics, where its only monthly payment + free and the rest of the stuff you grind for, maybe it'd be more fair.

I have no idea what your saying but if your saying a subscrition like wow then they have it and with it you get all content and other stuff its how I play and have for 4 years.

[KillEveryone]

I just wish I was a vip so I could neg rep you for being abusive in your first post.

You don't get to neg rep just for being VIP. You have to have like 1500 pos rep points I think, whatever it is called. Only gained from people giving you pos rep on the forums.

[lord_of_rage]

We got money to blowww!!!

Jk'ing yes its a large ripoff, im surprised that this game didn't turn out like any other ****** mmo right now. It's because the bonus thing they have attracts more people, when really it is a ripoff.

/signed

If only this game had WoW premium mechanics, where its only monthly payment + free and the rest of the stuff you grind for, maybe it'd be more fair.

Hmmm would that be the vip subscription?Yep I think it would. Look if you like WOW so much you can always go back to it noone is forcing you to stay here.

[cdbd3rd]

Get rid of the bull **** token system for purchasing from the DDO store. Cursing is justified here, i don't care if it offends anyone, ....

K, so you don't care about offending anyone else, so why would anyone else care about your opinion of store prices? (Not the best way to make your first-post intro to the community.)


You're upset because you can't buy two classes at once when you can only play one of them at a time.
Your solution has already been posted as to how to gain your classes by gaining a few more TPs without additional cost. Buy one class & play it to 100 favor, buy the other.

[Lorz]

And of course OP. You don't have to play.

Sorry either accept the way it is or move along, move along, like ya know you should.

[HumanJHawkins]

Sorry either accept the way it is or move along, move along, like ya know you should.

Stated like a true vegetable.

Just because the OP has no tact, doesn't mean there isn't a legit point. There are a lot of things I would buy if I could just buy them. I don't mind the prices... If something is too high I won't buy it. But if it's not too high, I would. Except that maybe I don't want to spend $50 on points so I can buy a $5 item.

I understand the fact that they have to sell people points because it confuses the average customer and tricks them into buying more stuff. Fine. But how about selling 500 points at a time? This still makes Turbine loads of $. Because if someone wants that 380 point item, they are going to buy 500 points and Turbine scores $. But the bundles they have now are a showstopper for a lot of people, including me.

[Chai]

Stated like a true vegetable.

Just because the OP has no tact, doesn't mean there isn't a legit point. There are a lot of things I would buy if I could just buy them. I don't mind the prices... If something is too high I won't buy it. But if it's not too high, I would. Except that maybe I don't want to spend $50 on points so I can buy a $5 item.

I understand the fact that they have to sell people points because it confuses the average customer and tricks them into buying more stuff. Fine. But how about selling 500 points at a time? This still makes Turbine loads of $. Because if someone wants that 380 point item, they are going to buy 500 points and Turbine scores $. But the bundles they have now are a showstopper for a lot of people, including me.

Your collective point would carry more weight if it was the only payment method. Sub up, and you dont have to worry about paying for anything else other than 15 bucks a month, ever again. No hidden costs, gotchas, or prices. No being subject to what you feel to be less than reasonable prices for new content in the future.

This whole "owning the game" thing is an illusion anyhow, because each time they release something new, the premium crowd will have to buy it. If they dont buy it, they dont get the new content and they get passed up gear wise. When they finally shut the servers off, premiums and VIPs alike will be left with the same scenario - nothing.

Each time they add new content, classes, or other features, itemizing the 15 dolar a month fee shows each item to cost less and less incrementally, because I am getting more features for the same money.

P.S. Points packages I see in the store right now are priced at: 6.50, 19.50, 29.50, 49.99 - so you have alot more options available then just the one 50 dollar package. You just get more for your money if you spend more. If you dont want to spend 50 bucks on points, dont. But you go into that knowing that if you buy the larger increment, you are paying less per point.

[magnus1]

And of course OP. You don't have to play.

Sorry either accept the way it is or move along, move along, like ya know you should.

how can you fix the things that are wrong if you run away? might be a good way to avoid conflicts but nothing gets accomplished from it. i'd say stand up for what you believe needs to be changed/no cowardly acts of running away!

[Visty]

how can you fix the things that are wrong if you run away? might be a good way to avoid conflicts but nothing gets accomplished from it. i'd say stand up for what you believe needs to be changed/no cowardly acts of running away!

nothing* is wrong so nothing has to get fixed


(*in general theres alot still wrong with this game but nothing this thread refers to)

[Dyesalot]

Yes I agree with the Author to some extent. I think that if you are paying a VIP rate then all basic functions of the game should be at no additional cost. That would be Races Maps Bank whatever else I might have missed some but you get the point. Pet peeve of mine is that you have to pay for FS even on a VIP account. I have always thought that if you are paying rent in a house you should not have to pay extra to use the toilet. Its part of the basic package of renting.

For enhancements or items you can either grind it out for favor or if you want to take the fast path then you can purchase those +2 Supreme tome's. Again its an option that does not impact game play. You can still play a FS without a tome.

If your not paying a monthly fee then suck up whatever outrageous prices the developer decides to charge. Its your choice at that point. Some of the packs are not worth a cent while others are truly great. Same goes with races or anything else that they chose to put a pricetag on. Your basically ordering from a menu at this point so pay as you go.

If your FTP then shut your piehole and you should be gratefull you are allowed to play this game to the extent that you are. Once you make an investment into the game other then your time you become worth listening to.

Flame Away

[Lorz]

how can you fix the things that are wrong if you run away? might be a good way to avoid conflicts but nothing gets accomplished from it. i'd say stand up for what you believe needs to be changed/no cowardly acts of running away!

You can't fix what is not broken.

There is nothing to fix here and nothing to run away.
Either accept this is the game...or go play wow...or whatever...ie move along.

As for your sense of cowardly action and standing up...you could not be further from the mark.
Maybe you need to learn that if it is your business then you set the deals...this is not some farmer market or local market swap where haggling applies. It is a published deal you can take or leave. Your complaint and entire line of "reasoning" is complete fantasy. You don't have to accept the offer but there i s nothing wrong with it.

So Don Quixote keep tilting and charging those windmills.

/nutbag

[Durion]

Yeah great game so far, played for a few days, one HUGE problem with you guys.

Monk + Favored soul: 1590 pts... $19.50 = 1550 pts
$19.50/1550pt = $.1258/pt .... 1590pts * $.1258 = $20(+3/10 of a cent)
Rip off? I think yes...
This says one thing: "We are going to make you pay more than you want."

Get rid of the bull **** token system for purchasing from the DDO store. Cursing is justified here, i don't care if it offends anyone, it properly gets the point across.

If i want to buy 1 thing, I only want to pay for that one thing. This point system drops you guys down to the level of "Korean power grinder" because all the south east asian mmos use this same **** system to rip of customers.

If you aren't willing to drop the token system, let us choose how much we buy to the single digit. you can scale your "bonus" to the amount, the equation will take 1 min to create based off of your current data.

The funny part is you will make more money if you don't make people overpay, because more people will buy things if they don't have to overspend for that one thing they want.

Other than that gj

Yeah, and i don't care if there is already a topic about this, or if there are a lot of topics about this. If either of these are so, the point needs to be brought across stronger. So there is no need to waste you time telling me so.

Really? So, you're complaining because spending $20 is a ripoff to get a class you want, but even after the fact that Turbine is letting you play their game for free? Guess what, get off the easy button horse and work to get your classes for FREE.

Or, you could be a lazy ass and cry because you can't get everything for free up front. (Cursing is justified here as this post is pretty much useless as the OP, being brand new to the game and not having a ****ing clue as to what he's talking about, is crying about spending money he doesn't have to spend).

So, its a rip-off because they'll let you play for free, or is it a rip-off because you have the OPTION to buy those toons you want instead of working for them?

In conclusion, I'd just like to say, quit crying on the forums and get your lazy ass to work grinding TP and you won't have to spend you precious hard earned $20, I'm sure you have much better things to spend it on anyhow, we just won't discuss it here as I'm sure its a EULA violation.

Have a nice day.