DDO Ripoff store

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

Oh wow... How dare a business want to make money from entertaining you...

With this, what's next?

Movie theaters actually charging for tickets?
Music companies making you pay to download their music?
Baseball teams wanting you purchase seats?
Arcades actually needing coins to play?
etc. etc..

Sorry, everyone pays to play... that is life. DDO has free options... no need to pay, but you will need to work for it.
Ripoffs for me are the hats, lowlevel gear, and other items easily aquired ingame...

And +20 bank slots for 995 TP! Don't forget that one...+20 slots=~$10 / versus +120 slots=free (2 new characters on F2P account)

[Lorz]

how can you fix the things that are wrong if you run away? might be a good way to avoid conflicts but nothing gets accomplished from it. i'd say stand up for what you believe needs to be changed/no cowardly acts of running away!

You can't fix what is not broken.

There is nothing to fix here and nothing to run away.
Either accept this is the game...or go play wow...or whatever...ie move along.

As for your sense of cowardly action and standing up...you could not be further from the mark.
Maybe you need to learn that if it is your business then you set the deals...this is not some farmer market or local market swap where haggling applies. It is a published deal you can take or leave. Your complaint and entire line of "reasoning" is complete fantasy. You don't have to accept the offer but there i s nothing wrong with it.

So Don Quixote keep tilting and charging those windmills.

/nutbag

[Dyesalot]

Yes I agree with the Author to some extent. I think that if you are paying a VIP rate then all basic functions of the game should be at no additional cost. That would be Races Maps Bank whatever else I might have missed some but you get the point. Pet peeve of mine is that you have to pay for FS even on a VIP account. I have always thought that if you are paying rent in a house you should not have to pay extra to use the toilet. Its part of the basic package of renting.

For enhancements or items you can either grind it out for favor or if you want to take the fast path then you can purchase those +2 Supreme tome's. Again its an option that does not impact game play. You can still play a FS without a tome.

If your not paying a monthly fee then suck up whatever outrageous prices the developer decides to charge. Its your choice at that point. Some of the packs are not worth a cent while others are truly great. Same goes with races or anything else that they chose to put a pricetag on. Your basically ordering from a menu at this point so pay as you go.

If your FTP then shut your piehole and you should be gratefull you are allowed to play this game to the extent that you are. Once you make an investment into the game other then your time you become worth listening to.

Flame Away

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

I think that if you are paying a VIP rate then all basic functions of the game should be at no additional cost. That would be Races Maps Bank whatever else I might have missed some but you get the point. Pet peeve of mine is that you have to pay for FS even on a VIP account.

Umm, actually, as it has already been pointed out in this thread, you do NOT have to pay for any races, quests, or classes if you are VIP. Monk and WF are automatically available, and ANYONE, VIP or not, can unlock Drow at 400 favor, and FvS at 2500 favor.

Just figured I'd point out the obvious, since for some people it does not seem to be...

[Daehawk]

And +20 bank slots for 995 TP! Don't forget that one...+20 slots=~$10 / versus +120 slots=free (2 new characters on F2P account)

It's actually not 995 TP anymore. After the sale the other day it became the new permanent price. They didn't really sell any at the 995 TP, but the sale price sold a lot, surprisingly, so it's now the base price and the new sale price will be lower.



So they do listen to us in a way. But I disagree with the OP as I said earlier in the thread. Buy things when they are on sale and not at full price and you save TP.

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

It's actually not 995 TP anymore. After the sale the other day it became the new permanent price. They didn't really sell any at the 995 TP, but the sale price sold a lot, surprisingly, so it's now the base price and the new sale price will be lower.



So they do listen to us in a way. But I disagree with the OP as I said earlier in the thread. Buy things when they are on sale and not at full price and you save TP.

GAH! I still wouldn't buy it even at that price, unless it was an addition to the shared bank, or if it opened up a slot on ALL characters on that server. In that case, it would be useful to me.

Pretty much spending anything more than 100-150 TP on one bank tab for one character is too much, IMO. I wish that they hadn't sold any of them so that we could have seen a bigger change, but in the end, any money for Turbine is a good thing...helps keep the game running!

[Battlehawke]

Everyone in the world is out to make money. You kinda need it to survive. Turbine allows you to play their game for free. It's not because they are nice and love making people feel all giddy inside. It's becasue they want to pay their bills too!! I don't always like everything Turbine does, however I do enjoy the game. It seems to me that a lot of the rants on the forums these days are from people who play for free. I just want to say that Turbine does listen/read and they try to absorb it all in, and do what they think is right for the game and for Turbine. Their player base is building, and thats good for me, because I know the game will be around longer and I will get to enjoy it a few more years. If you don't like something, you are free to express your opinion, however, if you feel a need to be hostile or be say things in an awful way becacause you don't have the INT to express yourself in a well mannered way, then I think they shouldn't listen to you. I love this game and will continue to pay. No one makes any of you play and you know of many other places that you can go play for free with this kind of quality game. Oh wait, you don't. It doesn't exist.

I just want to say keep up the good work Turbine, we are glad you are listening and continue to toon out the BS.

Battlehawke

[Daehawk]

GAH! I still wouldn't buy it even at that price, unless it was an addition to the shared bank, or if it opened up a slot on ALL characters on that server. In that case, it would be useful to me.

Pretty much spending anything more than 100-150 TP on one bank tab for one character is too much, IMO. I wish that they hadn't sold any of them so that we could have seen a bigger change, but in the end, any money for Turbine is a good thing...helps keep the game running!

Yeah, it would be more interesting to me if it was +1 Slot per character account wide. But since it's just 1 for 1 character. I have better things at the moment I can spend things on. So it's not that much of a priority. To others that have everything already it might be more interesting to them.

100 TP wouldn't be too big of a deal if you think about it. 1 Bank slot is 20 slots. Shared bank is 20 Slots. Shared bank on sale is 1121. So if you had 10 characters that'd still be 1,000 TP for 20 Slots on every character on one server vs 1,196 TP for 20 Collective Slots on all characters on per servers. Depending on how many servers you play on could make a difference.

[Asketes]

HI WELCOME

[KKDragonLord]

I'd wager the Point system has got more to do with avoiding taxes than with "Ripping some people off because they are too lazy to do the math on how much they are spending"...

Bioware and Microsoft are big users of these points systems, so its not like its something restricted to "rip-off korean MMOs where you gotta pay to not move like a snail in game and to get a chance to get near-end-game-loot" (true story)

[Durion]

Everyone in the world is out to make money. You kinda need it to survive. Turbine allows you to play their game for free. It's not because they are nice and love making people feel all giddy inside. It's becasue they want to pay their bills too!! I don't always like everything Turbine does, however I do enjoy the game. It seems to me that a lot of the rants on the forums these days are from people who play for free. I just want to say that Turbine does listen/read and they try to absorb it all in, and do what they think is right for the game and for Turbine. Their player base is building, and thats good for me, because I know the game will be around longer and I will get to enjoy it a few more years. If you don't like something, you are free to express your opinion, however, if you feel a need to be hostile or be say things in an awful way becacause you don't have the INT to express yourself in a well mannered way, then I think they shouldn't listen to you. I love this game and will continue to pay. No one makes any of you play and you know of many other places that you can go play for free with this kind of quality game. Oh wait, you don't. It doesn't exist.

I just want to say keep up the good work Turbine, we are glad you are listening and continue to toon out the BS.

Battlehawke

+1 Rep sir.

Agreed almost the whole way with you. It does seem that the people that have the opportunity to now play for free do cry alot because they have the option to pay money for items they can grind for.

And yes, Turbine DOES try to listen/absorb (and I'm not a fanboy, its just fact), but there are thousands of thousands of players that want what THEY want first. Its impossible. HOWEVER, there are a few items that could use fixing and could have used fixing for years that have been overlooked (imo).

Content seems to be one of the big issues, but by the sound of it, that should be coming in at a good clip like it was back at the beginning.

But anyhow, seems that even though you have all this ****ing and moaning, people are enjoying the game for the most part, if they weren't, our #'s would be going down and not up.

[Battlehawke]

Fernandos Post about update 5 makes all of this even more true. If you got a complaint, voice it the right way, but you don't need to be an A** about it. They care and they are listening. You know what happens when you try to make "ALL" of the people happy!!! Keep up the good stuff Turbine!!!

Battlehawke

[AbsynthMinded]

Fernandos Post about update 5 makes all of this even more true. If you got a complaint, voice it the right way, but you don't need to be an A** about it. They care and they are listening. You know what happens when you try to make "ALL" of the people happy!!! Keep up the good stuff Turbine!!!

Battlehawke

Yes however it is important to point out that what we and they feel are the higher priority items to address, are very often in conflict. We players see DDO put out stuff very often that is a head scratcher when we've been crying for other things to be addressed for a LONG TIME. As well things that I know would work out better being marketed differently surprises me quite often, but that's just me.

[fatherpirate]

Hello !
Free Game...how do they make money ? sell stuff

but you don't even need to buy FS or monk, just get a toon to 20 or so and by then
you will have gotten them just from favor awards.

or subscribe and get all that stuff included.

DDO has one of the nicest deals out there, Many micro-trans games make you pay for everything
with NO chance to open it in game.

and you can earn coins in game to boot, to buy stuff in the store.

[Dyesalot]

Umm, actually, as it has already been pointed out in this thread, you do NOT have to pay for any races, quests, or classes if you are VIP. Monk and WF are automatically available, and ANYONE, VIP or not, can unlock Drow at 400 favor, and FvS at 2500 favor.

Just figured I'd point out the obvious, since for some people it does not seem to be...

Umm, well Sherlock thanks for pointing out the obvious. Glad to see nothing slips by that razor sharp mind of yours except perhaps the point I was trying to make. The point your oblivious to is that you have to wait till you get 2500 favor in order to get a feature that should be included at the get go.

So yes you have to pay for it if you want to make one as a first character on any server. That in my opinion devalues the whole reason for being VIP. VIP should mean full immediate access to all races/class's/areas.

[Lorz]

Umm, well Sherlock thanks for pointing out the obvious. Glad to see nothing slips by that razor sharp mind of yours except perhaps the point I was trying to make. The point your oblivious to is that you have to wait till you get 2500 favor in order to get a feature that should be included at the get go.

So yes you have to pay for it if you want to make one as a first character on any server. That in my opinion devalues the whole reason for being VIP. VIP should mean full immediate access to all races/class's/areas.

Ummmm...You obviously don't know your history of the game. Every VIP has had to earn FvS.

So that point you are trying to make is nothing more than your demand for an easy button. Go earn the favor...like every player has....and quit your pointless whining. Your whole arguement is without merit.

[wolflordnexus]

Ummmm...You obviously don't know your history of the game. Every VIP has had to earn FvS.

So that point you are trying to make is nothing more than your demand for an easy button. Go earn the favor...like every player has....and quit your pointless whining. Your whole arguement is without merit.

Sorry man but his point is incredibly valid as a matter of fact it's the whole reason I didn't go VIP and instead chose Premium If I have to grind or pay for the classes and races I want to play anyway why pay a sub when I can just buy Exactly what I want. I do feel Dumb for Buying Dark Elf though once I Got 32 point build I haven't touched Dark Elf. Not to mention 400 favor is a few days worth of play.

[DoctorWhofan]

THe best part ofthis thread is not the OP, or vets ranting, it's the newer players and F2P yelling at the OP.

Sorry OP, if you don't have the patience, you might wanna find another game.

PS: your borderline rascism doesn't fly here.

[Antheal]

If your FTP then shut your piehole and you should be gratefull you are allowed to play this game to the extent that you are. Once you make an investment into the game other then your time you become worth listening to.

It's attitudes like yours that gives Veteran players a bad reputation and reciprocates nothing but disrespect.

Seriously dude, play nice or don't play at all.

[Hokiewa]

Sorry man but his point is incredibly valid as a matter of fact it's the whole reason I didn't go VIP and instead chose Premium If I have to grind or pay for the classes and races I want to play anyway why pay a sub when I can just buy Exactly what I want. I do feel Dumb for Buying Dark Elf though once I Got 32 point build I haven't touched Dark Elf. Not to mention 400 favor is a few days worth of play.

Not in least bit valid. FvS cost was made abundantly clear, and with the 500tp Vip pts retroactive to the launch of DDO EU it was free to most long time subs.