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    Default 36pt 20 Human FvS, Two Weapon Fighting?

    I’ve currently planning towards TR my Soc/Wiz to a 20 Human FvS getting +1 Evo DC and +2 Spell Pen (in addition to +1 DC for Wiz PL if I choose)

    After sifting through the forums for different build (I found Impaqt ’s Evoker build and Superior Soul thread very helpful) I’ve thinned down to 2 options

    Pure Evoker Build
    Str 14
    Dex 8
    Con 14
    Int 10
    Wis 18
    Cha 14
    Feats (Taken in this order):
    Extend/Maximize/Wiz Pastlife/Toughness/Heighten/Quicken/Empower/Spell Penetration

    Two Weapon Fighting Build
    Str 14
    Dex 13
    Con 14
    Int 8
    Wis 18
    Cha 11
    Feat (Taken in this order):
    Extend/Maximize/Toughness/Empower/2WF(after +2dex tome)/Quicken/Heighten/Wiz Pastlife

    I have leveled a 20Cleric and currently leveling a 17 FvS (which is due to be TRed to WF Sor), I enjoy playing both as a pure evoker build,
    2 problem I had with those are they started as low STR build, so:
    1)Leveling to 11/12 is rather painful via solo/pug
    2)Cant efficiently deal with large group of archers/caster that won’t run around in BB, especially when you need to open doors/levers

    Hence I’m trying to add some melee capability in the current build.
    As I’m unlikely to found static group, hence would mostly rely on solo and PUG, ease of leveling is essential
    (I would really rather not spend cash on Exp pots if I can help it)

    Questions I have:
    I think my main tactic would be to kite stuff through BB and finish off things with melee
    How much more/less efficient does the 2WF build have over the non-2WF build? Would it require a change in tactic to focus more on melee?

    I’m planning to craft a Holy, +3 Ext Wis Min2 long sword before I TR
    If I’m going to 2WF build, I’ll be looking for a Sup Pot 6 long sword (how hard to found are those?), else a heavy mace.
    I assume the offhand weapon would not deal a lot of damage, hence is the extra swing offered by I2WF really that useful? (as bumping dex to 15 and a feat is rather expansive)

    Which bring me to my next question, currently, as I see it, the reason for 2WF is so that I can swing a Min2 with reasonable AB while also holding a Sup Pot 6 weapon. Is that true?
    Or would that Sup Pot 6 Long swords be contributing decent amount of melee DPS
    If it is true, wont I be better off with a Sup Pot 6 dagger (to lessen the penalty for oversized weapon in offhand)

    Any particular long sword I need to look out for before I can get my hand on GS at level 12?
    Any other recommendation in general?


    Accumulated gears:
    Con Op Goggle (blind/Disease immune, 150SP, Cleasnsed)
    Reaver’s Napkin
    HoGF
    Torc
    bloodstone
    Spectral glove
    VOD Glove
    TOD boots
    selection of amrath belts
    Silverflame talisman
    Bunch of DT runes that I’ve yet to use up
    Working towards other stuff with semi static guild/group

    Any other particular GS item should to craft before TR?


    Eventually….
    I’m planning for a EPIC VON belt (I have shard and seal) and EPIC VON helm (have seal and scroll)
    +5 Resis, +6 CON, Imp Spell Pen 8 on DT robe
    GS 150 SP Con Op goggle
    GS 45HP GS earthgrab ???? (any suggestions?)
    Spectral Glove/Reaver glove/VOD glove
    Torc/Sup Pot 6 neck
    LotD/HoGF/Bloodstone(?)

    NOTE: I’m about 2 month away from TR this toon, as I have others in line for TR first (TR Barb->Barb take priority, followed by the FvS->Sor I’ve mentioned above)
    But I’d like some feedback so I can plan ahead first

    Thanks in advance

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    Talking Meleesoul

    Forget holding a superior potency VI weapon full-time if you melee; you will be better served collecting Tokala's and Amara's Amrath belts with the 3min clickies to juice up your healing; there are also a couple of necklaces with superior pot VI that you can use in case of antimagic fields or debuffage that work with offensive blade barriers as well. Another option is to throw Greater Devotion on a Tower of Despair ring once you are level 18. The DPS of a superior potency sword or dagger just isn't very good due to a lack of base (highest I have seen is a +3) and effects. Finally, I have a superior potency VI khopesh paired with a skiver that I swap in to drop a blade barrier or use when I am heal botting and working in heal scrolls (I use the Staff of the Petitioner with Amrath clickies when I don't need a hand occupied with a scroll).

    Prior to collecting these items you will end up doing lots of weapon switches; drop the blade barrier while holding a potency weapon or a clicky effect is active and then swap out to your DPS stuff. You will want to have a couple vorpals the minute you are appropriate level because your DPS is not the equivalent of a straight melee class and prior to endgame a 20 can fell lots of the strongest mobs. When you are level appropriate Blade Barrier is going to be your workhorse since you have plenty of DC for it. Lacking further progression along the TWF feat chain and not having power attack will pull you even further behind in terms of melee dps so I would focus on using status effect weapons and vorpals to kill pesky casters that do not move well through blade barriers.
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