Tr'ing a Monk

[dpadan17]

I have a lvl 19 monk and am planning on Tr'ing him relatively soon (need to grind out a GS cloak and 2 Min Dwarven Axes first and have mot items already). I am just wondering what other classes would mix well with this tr'ing? I am leaning towards just doing the monk thing for the 1d8 damage start, but was wondering if there are any other possibilities that would work out well? Thanks in advance.

[Baahb3]

OP, please don't take this post as a slight on you.

It confuses and saddens me to no end to see someone who has been playing the game for a little over a month already jumping onto the TR ride.

I know we all want to have the best character we can but have you really experiacned this game or have you just raced to 20 and are now TRing because that is what people are say you need to do? Have you done even 75% of the game's quests, experianced them and their changes on the different difficulty levels? I wonder if you even collected the 1750 favor to get your free +2 tome.

The reason I ask these questions is because of a recent experiance with another TR. I was running Dreams of Insanity and took a pug on, figured this should be ok he has his wings. The first thing he types is 'Where is this quest?' followed by 'Share'.

The mentality of 'race to 20 so you can TR' instead of 'enjoy the journey to 20 and experiance the game', especially for new players frustrates me to no end.

[Uska]

well if I ever get off my lazy duff and hit 20 agian on my monk I will tr her to monk again so she will have +2 dam and then will do once more then fighter 3 times for plus to hit maybe then do completionist

I went from monk to monk and love it. When I say monk I mean just monk no splashing for me.

[Comfortably]

OP, please don't take this post as a slight on you.

It confuses and saddens me to no end to see someone who has been playing the game for a little over a month already jumping onto the TR ride.

I know we all want to have the best character we can but have you really experiacned this game or have you just raced to 20 and are now TRing because that is what people are say you need to do? Have you done even 75% of the game's quests, experianced them and their changes on the different difficulty levels? I wonder if you even collected the 1750 favor to get your free +2 tome.

The reason I ask these questions is because of a recent experiance with another TR. I was running Dreams of Insanity and took a pug on, figured this should be ok he has his wings. The first thing he types is 'Where is this quest?' followed by 'Share'.

The mentality of 'race to 20 so you can TR' instead of 'enjoy the journey to 20 and experiance the game', especially for new players frustrates me to no end.

To be honest I hate that about the game now. Before the f2p thing came, everyone knew everyone on Ghallanda, it was awesome...now it's like you said, you take someone in and they a) don't know where the quest is, and b) just expect you to share it and carry them through the quest. It's happened to me several times now.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy helping newer players around and through quests and raids, when they listen, but meh when they don't man...fok.

[dpadan17]

OP, please don't take this post as a slight on you.

It confuses and saddens me to no end to see someone who has been playing the game for a little over a month already jumping onto the TR ride.

I know we all want to have the best character we can but have you really experiacned this game or have you just raced to 20 and are now TRing because that is what people are say you need to do? Have you done even 75% of the game's quests, experianced them and their changes on the different difficulty levels? I wonder if you even collected the 1750 favor to get your free +2 tome.

The reason I ask these questions is because of a recent experiance with another TR. I was running Dreams of Insanity and took a pug on, figured this should be ok he has his wings. The first thing he types is 'Where is this quest?' followed by 'Share'.

The mentality of 'race to 20 so you can TR' instead of 'enjoy the journey to 20 and experiance the game', especially for new players frustrates me to no end.

To be honest I hate that about the game now. Before the f2p thing came, everyone knew everyone on Ghallanda, it was awesome...now it's like you said, you take someone in and they a) don't know where the quest is, and b) just expect you to share it and carry them through the quest. It's happened to me several times now.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy helping newer players around and through quests and raids, when they listen, but meh when they don't man...fok.

I hear both of you. I only joined the board here about a month ago. I have been power playing for over 6 months now. I did state that I have most of the items to craft. I have completed most of the quests (minus titan, and amrath mainly). And have completed them on all difficulties several times. I was stating relatively soon. (could be several months from now.....depends on how much i play this toon or my other toon). I am just trying to plan out my attack. I still have to lvl up my other toon so I can enjoy the benefits of all levels. I don't take offense to this and I am definitely not subjected to what anyone else states to me. I can take advice and suggestions but alas it is my own toon to play. I could definitely finish the ToD flagging, and titan raids to get complete but just mainly planning my attack for when I do TR. I am learning the intricate details to power my toons up and am looking for previous people who could give me advice for when the time comes.

[Xeraphim]

The mentality of 'race to 20 so you can TR' instead of 'enjoy the journey to 20 and experiance the game', especially for new players frustrates me to no end.

The wings are a status symbol. What is our society always shoveling down our throats with a freight train as a weight? Attain the biggest and best status symbol as fast as possible while sacrificing nothing of yours and as much of everyone else's as possible.

So, the reasoning is obvious. You should not be at all confused, merely saddened.

[Xeraphim]

To be honest I hate that about the game now. Before the f2p thing came, everyone knew everyone on Ghallanda, it was awesome...now it's like you said, you take someone in and they a) don't know where the quest is, and b) just expect you to share it and carry them through the quest. It's happened to me several times now.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy helping newer players around and through quests and raids, when they listen, but meh when they don't man...fok.

a) Kick em after telling em to find it themselves, referring to Google Image Search for a map of the area. I came to quest, not babysit. If it's the last person in the group and we need that class for something, have em follow the group. If they fail at even that, kick em and move on. b) I generally complain EVERY time someone demands a Share for a quest that has the giver literally beside the quest entrance, and the group gathered near the entrance/giver. Nobody uses the Map or thinks for themselves when you have an Easy Button like Share, which contributes to idiocy and incompetence on a wide and very general scale.

I like helping new people. I really enjoy assisting someone when they are genuinely learning.

I HATE thinking FOR others and dragging their corpse behind me.

[Xeraphim]

I have a lvl 19 monk and am planning on Tr'ing him relatively soon (need to grind out a GS cloak and 2 Min Dwarven Axes first and have mot items already). I am just wondering what other classes would mix well with this tr'ing? I am leaning towards just doing the monk thing for the 1d8 damage start, but was wondering if there are any other possibilities that would work out well? Thanks in advance.

Sounds like you are making a TWF Dwarf of some kind. I recommend, if you have already done the planning associated with TRing(DO NOT TR IF YOU HAVE NOT PLANNED IT OUT), that you find out the most you can about the past life benefits. I find that Monk and Fighter are the most attractive to a melee type, and wizard and cleric are more attractive to Casters, with Wizard being the best by far. The builds that get the most out of the Monk Damage granted past life feat(+1 to all damage rolls) are those that have the highest two weapon fighting rates of speed(Tempest III, Kensai, Monk Wind 4) with the absolute maximum STR rating they can possibly get. If you are going Damage Specialist I recommend going Monk for 40 more total levels, then moving into your target class, to benefit from the full +3 to every swing.

[dpadan17]

Sounds like you are making a TWF Dwarf of some kind. I recommend, if you have already done the planning associated with TRing(DO NOT TR IF YOU HAVE NOT PLANNED IT OUT), that you find out the most you can about the past life benefits. I find that Monk and Fighter are the most attractive to a melee type, and wizard and cleric are more attractive to Casters, with Wizard being the best by far. The builds that get the most out of the Monk Damage granted past life feat(+1 to all damage rolls) are those that have the highest two weapon fighting rates of speed(Tempest III, Kensai, Monk Wind 4) with the absolute maximum STR rating they can possibly get. If you are going Damage Specialist I recommend going Monk for 40 more total levels, then moving into your target class, to benefit from the full +3 to every swing.

I think I will eventually go another monk then fighter after all the searching. My other toon is the TWF ranger/rogue/fighter build lvl 11. He will be anle to use the axes in a bit so I need to farm out the rest of the ingredients as well a ToD rings. I am just planning a little ahead to eliminate any errors like when I made my monster build and didn't make him lawful for the monk benifits. Still banging my head so I want to prepare asuch as possible. I wish they would allow alignment changes in the future for the tr in the future fir my ranger.

[bloodyrag]

dont quote me on this but isnt the +1 to damage on unarmed or monk weapons only? too lazy to look it up. i love my monk tred him once already hes back to 19now goin to tr him again once ive got a few raids to 20ths to make the most out of him max str build with wind stance the dps is pretty good. u dont see massive numbers that u can get off other max str builds but the atttack speed is awesome. if u want to splash monk into something else one lvl gets you bonus to saves and ac bonus is added from your wis 2lvls will get u evasion any more than that is kind of a waste atm till the pre is actually introduced.

[garkzz]

if you TR a monk into a pure monk, what damage does his fists do at lvl 20? 1d20 or one step up? If it's one step up, then how much?

[Lithic]

if you TR a monk into a pure monk, what damage does his fists do at lvl 20? 1d20 or one step up? If it's one step up, then how much?

Normally a lvl 20 monk does 2d10 with fists. Taking the past life monk feat ups this to 2d12 IIRC.

[efreet5]

The best advice I can give anyone new concerning TRing ANY toon is to raid with the toon first. Experience the game. Get your tomes/greensteel weapons or items/ToD rings etc. first. TRing with little to no twink gear is a waste of time. You will spend more than 2x as long to level a toon needing less than 2x the xp as you did before and you'll be no stronger even with the extra build points and past life feats. The increase in the experience needed to level can really wear on you as it is a GRIND.

I'm almost done with my second TR toon and I have run with too many NEW players that rushed to 20 and TR'd with little twink gear and no knowledge of what they're really doing. I'm not directing this at anyone in particular. I'm just saying that any newer player that's planning on TRing a toon should focus on experiencing the game and learning it before simply rushing into a TR. Player skill is the greatest attribute a character can have. Player skill>Gear>Character Level. Too many new players think it's the other way around.

[countesscrow]

I have a lvl 19 monk and am planning on Tr'ing him relatively soon (need to grind out a GS cloak and 2 Min Dwarven Axes first and have mot items already). I am just wondering what other classes would mix well with this tr'ing? I am leaning towards just doing the monk thing for the 1d8 damage start, but was wondering if there are any other possibilities that would work out well? Thanks in advance.

Hello,

I tr'd from monk to monk. Now i"m trying a new build.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=247381

There have recently been some actually damage comparisons in dps in builds. Posted in the Monk forums take a look at this.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=249101


Respectfully

Chaotics
Currently 5 Fighter/4 Monk "Twice TR'd"