loot rules - my 2c

[Adro]

Not going to name anyone & my intention is not a negative comment, just an explanation. In fact the "offending" people were very kind about it, if not totally understanding.

Anyway, their rules are if that they are in a raid they must offer their loot to their own members first on a need basis, then have their own members roll for want, then they let general group roll.
I have nothing against that. I ran with Novus Via and our rules perhaps slightly weighted to ourselves, tho usually our pugs were perspective members and it was our group. We did not enforce our rules in other people's group.
Now my issue is I was told they do not horde loot, but if most people are putting up for general roll that will WEIGHT loot in their direction and the instance that caused the problem left most of the loot in their hands (all but 1 of 4 or 5 pieces) and the person who got the one item they pulled ALSO rolled on the other pieces of loot they didnt pull. This group I believe was 6 of us, 5 of them, and 1 random. Things like that will happen randomly, but it did give a bad impression to my guildies.
To bring averages back to fair, since they have to follow their rules even in pugs, we would have to adopt a rule of having our 'general' roll exclude them, including items put up by puggers. Only if no one except them wanted would it be put up for a real general roll. Otherwise there IS hording and pugs just increase their chance at loot while giving a lower than normal chance to people including them in their group. I'd feel like a jerk doing that tho, so no idea what the fair situation is unless we all adopt their rules (which wont happen).
I like many of their members and hope to party with those people again later (edit) without toe stepping.