Need help for my WF BARB

[~Kazuma909]

Hello. Im trying to make a WF Barb. But I am having a bit of difficulty choosing feats for it. Basically, I want a good damage dealer with a decent amount of AC while wielding 2 handed weapons. I was thinking of getting the addy plating to start out with but I heard that it's a waste of time. But would addy plating feat and full plate armour be some what decent? Just a thought. Share some of your advice for this. Thank you.

[ArichValtrahn]

Look no further: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199947

AC on a barb is a very bad idea. THF is the way to go if youre a barb. Anyways, just follow the instructions in the link and go kill stuff.

[~Kazuma909]

Ok What should I pick for my beginning feat? On the link you provided it said Two Handed Fighting, but would it be better for me to choose toughness? Because it says to take the toughness feat or stunning blow at level 18. Would I get more hp from the toughness feat overall if i chose it at level or would i get the same amount of hp at level 18 if that makes sense? Im just trying to be extra cautious so I dont make any mistakes so i won't be kicking myself for later. Advice from any WF veterns.

[Diddly1]

Unless I am mistaken, warforged may only wear docents as armor, so any plate armor should be taken out of ac equations you are calculating.

Keep in mind, early on, feats such as addy body may be helpful for DR, and you can always swap it out later on.

[infernalmagiks]

Ok What should I pick for my beginning feat? On the link you provided it said Two Handed Fighting, but would it be better for me to choose toughness? Because it says to take the toughness feat or stunning blow at level 18. Would I get more hp from the toughness feat overall if i chose it at level or would i get the same amount of hp at level 18 if that makes sense? Im just trying to be extra cautious so I dont make any mistakes so i won't be kicking myself for later. Advice from any WF veterns.

The Toughness feat will give you the same amount of hp overall whenever you take it. So if you take it at lvl1 it will have given you 20hp by the time you reach 18. Take it instead at 18 it will give you that 20hp straight away.

[blitzschlag]

The Toughness feat will give you the same amount of hp overall whenever you take it. So if you take it at lvl1 it will have given you 20hp by the time you reach 18. Take it instead at 18 it will give you that 20hp straight away.

on the other hand the, up to, 80 bonus hp you can get through enhancements can be quite handy. still most (non human) barbs don't have a spare feat to take toughness. most barbs don't need toughness.

[Morrissey]

Didn't see this covered yet - barbs really can't have AC, rage lowers it. They do get free DR, 7 to 9 depending on enhancements. This DR is 9/-. Any body feats you take will be /adamantine, and lower - thus completely useless. I have a 20 WF warb, my feats (not in this order):

1. THF
2. ITHF
3.GTHF
4. Toughness
5. Stunning Blow
6. Cleave

[blitzschlag]

Didn't see this covered yet - barbs really can't have AC, rage lowers it. They do get free DR, 7 to 9 depending on enhancements. This DR is 9/-. Any body feats you take will be /adamantine, and lower - thus completely useless. I have a 20 WF warb, my feats (not in this order):

1. THF
2. ITHF
3.GTHF
4. Toughness
5. Stunning Blow
6. Cleave

what you say is true, but...

- adamantine body + wf-body enhancements are better than inherent barbarian dr/- until lvl 8-10. you can swap out the feat without problem and take toughness then (e.g.)
- a barb without power attack sux. plain simple and easy
- until you have a minII item you need improved critical

[Daggaz]

what you say is true, but...

- adamantine body + wf-body enhancements are better than inherent barbarian dr/- until lvl 8-10. you can swap out the feat without problem and take toughness then (e.g.)
- a barb without power attack sux. plain simple and easy
- until you have a minII item you need improved critical

You dont _need_ improved critical. Its nice, sure.. but you can get along quite well without it until you craft that minII, which you ARE going to craft. And there are workarounds as well.. you can use carnifex for example all the way up until near cap on anything that is not crit immune, and that axe beats improved crit hands down, saving you a feat.

In all honesty, with a normal greataxe, improved crit just means you crit < 10% of the time as opposed to < 5% (you still got to confirm). Power attack is an absolute must have, but if you can trade a bit of _random_ DPS for a fat pile of hps and full time survivability?? I dont think that question is nearly as one sided as the forums make it out to be.

All this max DPS at any cost talk is highly over-rated.

[blitzschlag]

You dont _need_ improved critical. Its nice, sure.. but you can get along quite well without it until you craft that minII, which you ARE going to craft. And there are workarounds as well.. you can use carnifex for example all the way up until near cap on anything that is not crit immune, and that axe beats improved crit hands down, saving you a feat.

you clearly don't know what you talking about. its not just a bit more dps against critable targets. while carnifex is good i'd take a holyburst of pg over it mostly... crafting a minII is not as trivial as posting about it in the forums...

In all honesty, with a normal greataxe, improved crit just means you crit < 10% of the time as opposed to < 5% (you still got to confirm). Power attack is an absolute must have, but if you can trade a bit of _random_ DPS for a fat pile of hps and full time survivability?? I dont think that question is nearly as one sided as the forums make it out to be.

All this max DPS at any cost talk is highly over-rated.

what else you do when you can't reach the ac to be worthwhile? or when you reach the ac, what you do to kill the stuff? anyway, go get some epic stuff and come back and tell high damage output does not matter...

[infernalmagiks]

on the other hand the, up to, 80 bonus hp you can get through enhancements can be quite handy. still most (non human) barbs don't have a spare feat to take toughness. most barbs don't need toughness.

True. The amount of HP gained from the feat wasn't really my point. The point was that, whenever the feat is taken, you get the same amount of HP out of it.

[Rickpa]

Didn't see this covered yet - barbs really can't have AC, rage lowers it. They do get free DR, 7 to 9 depending on enhancements. This DR is 9/-. Any body feats you take will be /adamantine, and lower - thus completely useless. I have a 20 WF warb, my feats (not in this order):

1. THF
2. ITHF
3.GTHF
4. Toughness
5. Stunning Blow
6. Cleave

Without Power Attack, you can't take Cleave. The plus that PA gives a 2 handed weapon is HUGE! I wouldn't play any melee without it!

[Morrissey]

Without Power Attack, you can't take Cleave. The plus that PA gives a 2 handed weapon is HUGE! I wouldn't play any melee without it!

Settle down guys, i only listed 6 feats, my 7th is power attack. I knew i forgot one, was too sleepy to go check. =p

I have IC: slash on other melee's its just that on a capped barb I don't really miss it. I use 3 weapons 99.9% of the time.
1. MinII Gaxe (don't need it)
2. Holy Burst/Icy Burst Weighted 5% Maul (Wouldn't affect it)
3. Holy of GUB Maul (can't crit skellies, wouldn't affect it)

Might pick it up if I get the ESoS, and it's a great choice for a swappable feat (IC leveling, Toughness late). Gonna be a while on that though, my pally gets the first shard I loot.

[~Kazuma909]

i was thinking of combining the addy body feat with the dr enhancements, would that be effective or no?